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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8802539" data-attributes="member: 6915329">Why should you be penalized because people who aren't dwarfs think your species is gruff and surly? (And that's what it was, when they had a Charisma penalty when dealing with non-dwarfs--your race's stats was limited by in-game bigotry; it's like reverse-metagaming.) And why shouldn't a happy, friendly dwarf be as Charismatic as a happy, friendly human? And more specifically, why should you being gruff and surly mean you're not as good at playing music or lying--or at casting spells from certain spell lists? Why can a dwarf king, mine supervisor, or general never be as good at their jobs as a human can be?And hey, maybe everyone should get a Charisma penalty when dealing with creatures of a different race. Sorry elves, humans just think you're weird and yeah, you're pretty, but it's an Uncanny Valley kind of pretty, so no 18 Charisma for you!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8802539, member: 6915329"] Why should you be penalized because people who aren't dwarfs think your species is gruff and surly? (And that's what it was, when they had a Charisma penalty when dealing with non-dwarfs--your race's stats was limited by in-game bigotry; it's like reverse-metagaming.) And why shouldn't a happy, friendly dwarf be as Charismatic as a happy, friendly human? And more specifically, why should you being gruff and surly mean you're not as good at playing music or lying--or at casting spells from certain spell lists? Why can a dwarf king, mine supervisor, or general never be as good at their jobs as a human can be? And hey, maybe [I]everyone [/I]should get a Charisma penalty when dealing with creatures of a different race. Sorry elves, humans just think you're weird and yeah, you're pretty, but it's an Uncanny Valley kind of pretty, so no 18 Charisma for you! [/QUOTE]

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