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RPG Evolution: The Trouble with Halflings
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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8810741" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I think this is a bit misleading, and also kind of the problem. See, by saying that they are the main character of "the two most influential classical DnD-esc Fantasy Movies/Trilogies" you are first obfuscating that those trilogies are set in the same world, by the same author. </p><p></p><p>Sure, you can try and argue that Hobbits are massively influential in eight of the greatest medieval style fantasy movies set in an alternate world... but considering those are ALL Lord of the Rings movies I'm referencing, that's heavily misleading. </p><p></p><p>And actually here is something worth considering. Did some googling and some research. Halflings have never once shown up in a DnD movie or cartoon. I know we haven't had a lot of those yet, but none of the three movies produced so far have them, the dragonlance animated movie wouldn't have them (most people consider Kender and halfling fairly different) and the cartoon didn't have them. In fact, the only reference to halflings I can find for the cartoon is a guy called Hector the Halfling, who claimed to be a halfling, but was secretly something else. So, you claim that DnD fans would be upset because a world without halflings wouldn't fit their conception of fantasy... but a world without halflings HAS fit their conception of Dungeons and Dragons. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I also think this deeply misses the current zeitgeist for Fantasy. Pure medieval style worlds of fantasy are in the vast minority of modern fantasy films. If you look at a list of "Top 50" or "Top 80" fantasy movies of all time, and take out LoTR, you get like... three other medieval fantasy movies? The thing is, halflings are just not very common AT ALL in fantasy once you move beyond Lord of the Rings. We, in this community, think they are a bigger deal because everyone CONSTANTLY lauds Tolkien as the high water mark of all Fantasy, the most definitive and important fantasy writer of all time. But Modern Fantasy novels look nothing like Tolkien's work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now this, I will agree with. And this is a problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8810741, member: 6801228"] I think this is a bit misleading, and also kind of the problem. See, by saying that they are the main character of "the two most influential classical DnD-esc Fantasy Movies/Trilogies" you are first obfuscating that those trilogies are set in the same world, by the same author. Sure, you can try and argue that Hobbits are massively influential in eight of the greatest medieval style fantasy movies set in an alternate world... but considering those are ALL Lord of the Rings movies I'm referencing, that's heavily misleading. And actually here is something worth considering. Did some googling and some research. Halflings have never once shown up in a DnD movie or cartoon. I know we haven't had a lot of those yet, but none of the three movies produced so far have them, the dragonlance animated movie wouldn't have them (most people consider Kender and halfling fairly different) and the cartoon didn't have them. In fact, the only reference to halflings I can find for the cartoon is a guy called Hector the Halfling, who claimed to be a halfling, but was secretly something else. So, you claim that DnD fans would be upset because a world without halflings wouldn't fit their conception of fantasy... but a world without halflings HAS fit their conception of Dungeons and Dragons. I also think this deeply misses the current zeitgeist for Fantasy. Pure medieval style worlds of fantasy are in the vast minority of modern fantasy films. If you look at a list of "Top 50" or "Top 80" fantasy movies of all time, and take out LoTR, you get like... three other medieval fantasy movies? The thing is, halflings are just not very common AT ALL in fantasy once you move beyond Lord of the Rings. We, in this community, think they are a bigger deal because everyone CONSTANTLY lauds Tolkien as the high water mark of all Fantasy, the most definitive and important fantasy writer of all time. But Modern Fantasy novels look nothing like Tolkien's work. Now this, I will agree with. And this is a problem. [/QUOTE]
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