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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8812271" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Are you nuts? Like, I'm sorry, what? In what world is Avatar the Last Air Bender not popular? It is still be referenced to this day. Adventure Time was massive. Look, I get it. Tolkien's work has survived nearly 100 years, it was really good. And Peter Jackson's films rekindled the spark and made people care again. But you seem to not understand that the media landscape is far far different than it was, and Tolkien's work is far out numbered by the other popular fantasy works. "over the past year combined" Yeah, THAT is the problem with your analysis. "This brand new show is getting more views than this show that is over 15 years old. Every single episode combined of this show that is over 15 years old combined got less views than the episodes of this brand new show no one has ever seen" Here, I'll give you a counter-point. Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (2022) got more theatrical showings than every single Tolkien movie combined this year. Does that mean that Sonic the Hedgehog is more popular than  Tolkien? Or is that because there hasn't been a theatrical release of a Tolkien product in the last eight years, so obviously theaters weren't showing those old movies compared to a new movie? And I'm not pretending those shows are popular. They ARE popular. What I was trying to demonstrate is that if the only things you can list that have halflings are Tolkien and Willow, and the only serious medieval fantasy shows you can list can be trivially outnumbered by popular fantasy works in a single niche market (American Animated TV shows) then claiming that those are the dominant force is a little misleading. Right, you clearly don't get it. I didn't include comedy movies set to make fun of medieval fantasy movies. They are a reaction, not a driving force. And I double checked, Carvinal Row was the one I thought it was. So, now we have a decision to make. You claim that these "fit DnD" and therefore should be included. Why they fit DnD I can't tell you, as those who insist on halflings generally insist on a western medieval world and that that is DnD. But, if you can just declare that a gaslight fantasy set in the industrial era "fits DnD" then I can declare that every single thing I've listed fits DnD. She-Ra fits DnD, Journey to the West fits DnD, Naruto fits DnD, Avatar the Last Airbender fits DnD, Cuphead fits DnD, Final Fantasy fits DnD, Blue Exorcist fits DnD. On and on and on and on. And you know what the VAST majority of those properties have in common? No halflings. So, again, this isn't about "should halflings exist". I'm not arguing that point. I'm arguing where does the preponderance of fantasy literature lie. Does the existence of Tolkien outweigh basically every other fantasy work ever created in the last 100 years or not? Me? I say it doesn't.</blockquote>

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