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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8812280" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Sure, DnD is classically medieval fantasy. I'm not denying that. But, again, let's look at those names. Tolkien? 1955 was the publication of Return of the KingHoward? Died in 1936, and most Conan stories written by other authors. Lovecraft? Died in 1937, so we can say that was when he wrote his last book. Also, weird how Noir Horror is part of Medieval Fantasy, isn't it? Now. Do you think that zero influential or good fantasy has been written since 1955? This is the thing we keep coming back to. By saying that people's conception of Fantasy is rooted in Tolkien and Howard, that THESE are the influences that fully encapsulate DnD, you are saying that Fantasy is stagnant, that no new good ideas have been written in DECADES to a CENTURY. This is false. 100% completely false. And it is so frustrating to see people continuously claim that these old writers, who are only known because old fans of DnD keep insisting they are the ONLY fantasy writers that matter, are held as the peak of the mountain. If you want Tolkien and Howard to be the be all end all of your fantasy, feel free. They wrote decent stuff. But I have entire bookcases full of people who wrote other things, of different takes on Fantasy. I've watched hundreds of hours of fantasy works that look nothing like those worlds. MY conception of fantasy is not limited to these authors, and in fact, I have never recommended them to anyone when introducing them to DnD. I think DnD needs to expand its scope, because our limitations on what we allow to be fantasy are getting to the point of almost fetishistic, and it is those who insist on those highly limited sources that then claim that halflings are vitally important, because half of their conception of DnD is rooted in a single author who used them as his protagonists.</blockquote>

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