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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8812739" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Obviously you didn't say that. That's the point I'm trying to make. No one thinks that no fantasy has been written since Tolkien. Yet, when we go to discuss what DnD should be what comes up as the definitive answer? Tolkien and Howard. What is a Ranger? Tolkien. What is a Barbarian? Howard. What Races should be included? Tolkien. How magical should people be? Tolkien and Howard. Any time we try and bring up something more modern in the fantasy genre, we are told that that &quot;isn't DnD&quot; and that we should do things more like... Tolkien or Howard. Eastern Influences? Nope, they don't count. World of Warcraft? Nope, doesn't count.Animated content? Nope, doesn't count.&nbsp; The ONLY things brought up outside of Tolkien and Howard with regularity is Moorcock or Vance. ALSO multiple decades old. I know you personally are not making this claim right now, in this thread, but seriously, think about how often Tolkien, Howard, Moorcock and Vance come up compared to literally anything else on these forums.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8812739, member: 6801228"] Obviously you didn't say that. That's the point I'm trying to make. No one thinks that no fantasy has been written since Tolkien. Yet, when we go to discuss what DnD should be what comes up as the definitive answer? Tolkien and Howard. What is a Ranger? Tolkien. What is a Barbarian? Howard. What Races should be included? Tolkien. How magical should people be? Tolkien [B][I]and [/I][/B]Howard. Any time we try and bring up something more modern in the fantasy genre, we are told that that "isn't DnD" and that we should do things more like... Tolkien or Howard. Eastern Influences? Nope, they don't count. World of Warcraft? Nope, doesn't count. Animated content? Nope, doesn't count. The ONLY things brought up outside of Tolkien and Howard with regularity is Moorcock or Vance. ALSO multiple decades old. I know you personally are not making this claim right now, in this thread, but seriously, think about how often Tolkien, Howard, Moorcock and Vance come up compared to literally anything else on these forums. [/QUOTE]

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