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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8813434" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Yep, you caught me red-handed. All hail King Chaosmancer, guy who wants to talk about improving the game. It is always amusing how &quot;quite a few of us are having this problem, can we fix it&quot; is always &quot;So you have declared yourself the ruler of all fun and decider of everyting, but I say no, because I want the status quo&quot;Nope, strawman, that isn't what I said. You can be important WITHOUT being warlike conquerors. Unless you think Doctor's Without Borders or The Red Cross are completely unimportant to the larger world of Earth?What do you mean by power? There is lots of different forms of power, and halflings even in official lore have a lot of it.I'll get you a list of our membership at the next meeting. I'm sure it will be coming any day now. As for the option to play the &quot;overlooked everyman&quot;. We've had this discussion. The fact of the matter is that you are wrong about humans, elves, and dwarves not having &quot;everymen&quot; in them. Not every human on the surface of Faerun is a great and powerful warrior, or a wise sage. A lot of them are what they were for our world. Every day men and women trying to get by. You don't need a race of &quot;everymen&quot; because that defeats the entire concept of &quot;everymen&quot; and is bizarre in the context of the game to have a race of &quot;everymen&quot; that are overlooked and underestimated... and still produce the same heroes and fight the same forces of darkness that every other race fights.That is because I am forced into two different conversations. Those posts talking about them not appearing in fiction outside of DnD are in response to the idea that we can't change halflings because they are vital to the public's perception of Fantasy. Which is hilariously off-base, as I have been arguing. Halflings basically only appear in Tolkien, that's it. Fantasy is larger than Tolkien. They are not vital at all to the idea of Fantasy itself. If I could have a single conversation and not three, you may be less confused, but I've been consistent in my positions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8813434, member: 6801228"] Yep, you caught me red-handed. All hail King Chaosmancer, guy who wants to talk about improving the game. It is always amusing how "quite a few of us are having this problem, can we fix it" is always "So you have declared yourself the ruler of all fun and decider of everyting, but I say no, because I want the status quo" Nope, strawman, that isn't what I said. You can be important WITHOUT being warlike conquerors. Unless you think Doctor's Without Borders or The Red Cross are completely unimportant to the larger world of Earth? What do you mean by power? There is lots of different forms of power, and halflings even in official lore have a lot of it. I'll get you a list of our membership at the next meeting. I'm sure it will be coming any day now. As for the option to play the "overlooked everyman". We've had this discussion. The fact of the matter is that you are wrong about humans, elves, and dwarves not having "everymen" in them. Not every human on the surface of Faerun is a great and powerful warrior, or a wise sage. A lot of them are what they were for our world. Every day men and women trying to get by. You don't need a race of "everymen" because that defeats the entire concept of "everymen" and is bizarre in the context of the game to have a race of "everymen" that are overlooked and underestimated... and still produce the same heroes and fight the same forces of darkness that every other race fights. That is because I am forced into two different conversations. Those posts talking about them not appearing in fiction outside of DnD are in response to the idea that we can't change halflings because they are vital to the public's perception of Fantasy. Which is hilariously off-base, as I have been arguing. Halflings basically only appear in Tolkien, that's it. Fantasy is larger than Tolkien. They are not vital at all to the idea of Fantasy itself. If I could have a single conversation and not three, you may be less confused, but I've been consistent in my positions. [/QUOTE]

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