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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8813901" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Right, funny how that works. Can't discuss design, because that's only an opinion and not an "objective fact". So we simply won't discuss it (because you'll dismiss anything I couch in ephuemisms as not worth discussing) and you maintain the status quo just like you want. Or maybe you just want me to say something blatantly obvious like "it is my opinion". Man, I would have a lot less effort put into this thread if I simply regurgitated other people's opinions instead of reaching my own conclusions. Of course, if that was all I was doing, I'd credit that person, so you'd know it wasn't my opinion and you could discuss THEIR opinion instead. Sadly, I think for myself so 80% of my posts are actually my opinions and conclusions.Soooo....Vague statement that things have changed. Kind of funny since we just came off a conversation of how we should continue focusing on a 90~ year old work as the focal point of all fantasy. Your general likes of various rule systems. Which doesn't really apply to specific lore. Dragonlance, for some unknown reason, as it has little to nothing to do with the conversation so far. Maybe there is a point?Ah, here it is. The exact thing I said. "We can discuss it." You realize very few discussions happen when everyone agrees and is on the same page right? You are stating this like somehow after three threads worth of being told I'm wrong, I somehow don't understand that other people have opinions that may differ from mine. This isn't a revelation to me. I know.Huh, why does not changing things give them "options they should have"? Why is that they SHOULD have halflings? That makes it sound like fantasy would be incomplete without Halflings. But, as we've established, the vast vast vast majority of Fantasy does not include child-sized, pastoral farming people who seclude themselves from the world and act exactly like humans. I mean, it is your opinion, but why? If it is just "because I like it that way" then, well, I'm glad you like things, but that isn't a strong defense. People like canoes carved from logs, but that didn't stop us from making OTHER kinds of water vessels, some of which are far superior than log canoes at things we consider important for water transportation.I don't care. We aren't discussing Dragonlance in the specific.Okay? First of all, you seem completely UNhappy to engage in that conversation, considering how much effort I've put into trying to prevent it from derailing. Secondly, no one ever stated that we are going to include a by-law in DnD that states every single thing in the PHB MUST be included in every campaign setting. That has absolutely nothing to do with the conversation. Now, many of us have recognized that things int he PHB are OFTEN included in campaign settings, because the PHB is the fundamental Core, and it would be strange is most campaign settings didn't include the fundamental core aspects of the game. This is important, because that means that if the things in the PHB are not top quality, then we are putting sub-par content into the majority of campaigns, but this is again not something we have been discussing, at all.</blockquote>

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