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<blockquote data-quote="Gammadoodler" data-source="post: 8817846" data-attributes="member: 6914290"><p>Can't believe I'm doing this..here we go..</p><p></p><p></p><p>And there is art where scale references are present that kind of art provides more information than art which does not. Do you think scale might be important information to have for a fantasy creature? </p><p></p><p>If I say it's a teacup tiger or teacup roving mauler, does that change anything about how you assess the capabilities of the creature?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe you could in the original. At max zoom, I see a line for a mouth and a lot of pixellation. Even so, based on the art, how do you even know whether it is a wild or domestic creature?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sloths are quadrupedal mammals, so are porcupines, squirrels, corgis, guinea pigs, skunks, beavers, badgers, etc. Wide range of speeds in that group. But, who says the creature picture even runs on 4 legs?</p><p>[ATTACH=full]265638[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]265639[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]265640[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]265641[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]265644[/ATTACH]</p><p>Sure you can..<img class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" alt="🙄" title="Face with rolling eyes :rolling_eyes:" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" data-shortname=":rolling_eyes:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>So there is art which could indicate a certain cycle for the creatures it depicts. That art provides more information than this art.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No shoulder joints are pictured. No spinal column is pictured. There is no indication of the range of postures the legs or tail could adopt.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait, I don't see any musculature in this art..surely you don't mean to suggest that a tiger can jump without muscles?</p><p></p><p></p><p>But a unicorn can fly without wings... foot structure is not pictured, shoulder joints are not pictured.</p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]265663[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]265664[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]265665[/ATTACH]</p><p>Yeah..no way at all..for art to indicate any of these things..</p><p></p><p></p><p>But you can't figure out the size..so..the answer isn't obvious. Got it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok let's recap.. of your responses, how many did not rely on prior knowledge of the capabilities of other felines? Almost none.</p><p></p><p>And the definition indicates that a tiger is a large carnivorous feline. So what incremental information does the dictionary art provide? </p><p></p><p>Or..let's put it another way, how many of your answers change if you don't have the art at all.</p><p></p><p>If the answer is "not many" or "not any", then maybe it's fair to say that the art carries "little weight".</p><p></p><p>Additionally, if you replaced the dictionary art with one of the other tiger images in this post, would you be able to provide any more or better answers to the questions.. If the answer is "yes", then you might say that the dictionary art carries "less weight" than other styles of illustration.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gammadoodler, post: 8817846, member: 6914290"] Can't believe I'm doing this..here we go.. And there is art where scale references are present that kind of art provides more information than art which does not. Do you think scale might be important information to have for a fantasy creature? If I say it's a teacup tiger or teacup roving mauler, does that change anything about how you assess the capabilities of the creature? Maybe you could in the original. At max zoom, I see a line for a mouth and a lot of pixellation. Even so, based on the art, how do you even know whether it is a wild or domestic creature? Sloths are quadrupedal mammals, so are porcupines, squirrels, corgis, guinea pigs, skunks, beavers, badgers, etc. Wide range of speeds in that group. But, who says the creature picture even runs on 4 legs? [ATTACH type="full" alt="3c684c9a958a4863f7df8b7076bb4fbe.jpg"]265638[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" alt="1667530058837.png"]265639[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" alt="1667530178785.png"]265640[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" alt="1667530238894.png"]265641[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" alt="1667530336393.png"]265644[/ATTACH] Sure you can..🙄 So there is art which could indicate a certain cycle for the creatures it depicts. That art provides more information than this art. No shoulder joints are pictured. No spinal column is pictured. There is no indication of the range of postures the legs or tail could adopt. Wait, I don't see any musculature in this art..surely you don't mean to suggest that a tiger can jump without muscles? But a unicorn can fly without wings... foot structure is not pictured, shoulder joints are not pictured. [ATTACH type="full"]265663[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]265664[/ATTACH][ATTACH type="full"]265665[/ATTACH] Yeah..no way at all..for art to indicate any of these things.. But you can't figure out the size..so..the answer isn't obvious. Got it. Ok let's recap.. of your responses, how many did not rely on prior knowledge of the capabilities of other felines? Almost none. And the definition indicates that a tiger is a large carnivorous feline. So what incremental information does the dictionary art provide? Or..let's put it another way, how many of your answers change if you don't have the art at all. If the answer is "not many" or "not any", then maybe it's fair to say that the art carries "little weight". Additionally, if you replaced the dictionary art with one of the other tiger images in this post, would you be able to provide any more or better answers to the questions.. If the answer is "yes", then you might say that the dictionary art carries "less weight" than other styles of illustration. [/QUOTE]
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