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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8821355" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I truly am stunned that the fact that humans are real, and that I understand what a human is, should somehow mean that when something is referred to as human, and described, that I must assume it is non-human. No, just because they made up some ethnicities and didn't treat humans any differently than they treated the other races, that doesn't mean that humans in DnD are inhuman beings. This is the most bizarro argument I've ever heard. Humans are... human. That's the point. Because, and I know this seems to be a difficult point to get across. Humans are real. Right now, I can walk about 10 ft, and there is a whole room with them in it. I've been talking to humans all day. Just like how I can basically put in a squirrel into DnD without it really being homebrew, because squirrels exist, and they kind of can just be rats with climb speeds, because... I can reference what a squirrel is without any need for fantasy definitions. Because squirrels are real. They exist. I can go out and get one if I really really wanted to. Halflings, just because it seems to be needed to state this, are not real. They don't actually exist in the real world. So, unlike humans which are real and hopefully everyone at your table understands that and knows what a human is, we need halflings to be defined. Because they aren't real. And, therefore, since they need to be defined, if you have changed that definition to include things that are not part of their official definition, you have changed them. And this needs to be addressed, because while I want to change them, saying they don't need to be changed officially because you changed them is unhelpful. However, I can say that humans have three eyes and six arms and fly with the power of flatulence, and everyone knows immediately that that isn't true. That isn't what a human is. Because humans are real. It doesn't matter if you changed them to be that, because you can't change the definition of what a human is. And, the greater part of this, is that even if you want to solely focus on DnD and nothing else, ignore eveyrthing in the real world and just look solely at the depictions of humans in DnD... you are still wrong. Because we have plenty of humans who are commoners. Who lack ambitions. Who prefer spending time with their family. Because we didn't need to include that in the Human entry, because humans are real, we know them, and we have been telling stories about humans and what they want for tens of thousands of years.  So saying that these depictions are impossible, or are actually the realm of halflings, is ridiculous. This has been a human thing, and it is a human thing in DnD, and you need to stop insisting it isn't a human thing.</blockquote>

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