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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8822671" data-attributes="member: 6801228">So, DnD sources are now no longer valid, where before your complaint was that I used real world sources. So, I can only use the PHB to discuss how humans are depicted in the game? Why? Also, would you care to tell me what from the PHB Human description DOESN'T describe humanity from Earth? If they are so different there must be... differences. Right? I don't know what "unofficial" halfling content you are talking about. I also don't see how trying to keep the conversation to the points being discussed is somehow bad. Yes, my complaints about halflings don't apply to the single setting where they were the secret psychic cannibal masters of the world. It does apply to... every other setting and the generic books. It applies to the PHB. It applies to every 5e adventure printed for the last seven years. Because, notably, the last Dark Sun product was printed twelve years ago. The last DnD product that mentions halflings was released this year I would hope. And, again, as I keep saying. These "other sources" you refer to are... DnD products. Which DnD products? All of them. Every DnD product that has ever featured humans has included humans that act in the ways I've described. The Light of Xaryxis features humans who are content with their lives and have no grand designs or drive to adventure. This isn't some obscure bit of lore, this isn't some out-there source that has nothing to do with DnD, this is EVERY. SINGLE. PRODUCT. that features humans. So, in summary, you seem to want to call me a hypocrite (by the way, calling me a hypocrite isn't saying the argument is hypocritical, and you did the first. You made your entire "third option" all about me and my supposed bad faith logic, not the logic itself) because I have seen how humans are portrayed in DnD, and account for that using ALL humans in DnD, but when confronted with Dark Sun halflings I say "yes, those exist and they are different, but we are talking about the 95% of OTHER halflings". Yes, Darksun existed. It is so niche it hasn't been printed in twelve years, unlike Forgotten Realms which has been published continuously all edition. Maybe we should focus on the thing people actually see, and not the obscure product with the even more obscure race on the borders of the setting that rarely come into play. This isn't a hypocritical argument. I'm applying the exact same level of care to both races. One race which doesn't have a problem, no one has complained about, and has a distinctive quality that warps any and all discussion surrounding it, and the other race which people have said they have a problem with, identitified the problem, and tried to discuss.</blockquote>

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