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<blockquote data-quote="Distracted DM" data-source="post: 9761315" data-attributes="member: 6894926"><p>I always ran it as "oh it's an action to remove an item, sure," and that's sort of made light of any other storage option.. until the Haversack came up in a treasure roll, and the player wanted to know why this was supposed to be a better item than the more common bag of holding- which got me reading into both of them.</p><p></p><p>Yes, it takes an action to remove an item from the bag- but the Haversack specifically calls out that the item that you want will be there at the top, easily reached. Whereas in a bag of holding you're basically reaching in feeling around through a 4ft deep pile of coins/potions/swords/treasure/trash/corpses or whatever else the party keeps in there. So it's an action to remove something, but you have to find it first. It would seem that bags of holding are not meant to be reliably accessed during combat, where time is of the essence.</p><p></p><p>I've never been a fan of hiding rules inside of other rules, but having discovered this it made sense- to me, at least. I think BoH should have had some extra text explaining intent, if the haversack is anything to go by.</p><p></p><p>And yes, with 5e24 they buffed the haversack, rather than nerfed the bag of holding by explaining that it's more difficult to get items out of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Distracted DM, post: 9761315, member: 6894926"] I always ran it as "oh it's an action to remove an item, sure," and that's sort of made light of any other storage option.. until the Haversack came up in a treasure roll, and the player wanted to know why this was supposed to be a better item than the more common bag of holding- which got me reading into both of them. Yes, it takes an action to remove an item from the bag- but the Haversack specifically calls out that the item that you want will be there at the top, easily reached. Whereas in a bag of holding you're basically reaching in feeling around through a 4ft deep pile of coins/potions/swords/treasure/trash/corpses or whatever else the party keeps in there. So it's an action to remove something, but you have to find it first. It would seem that bags of holding are not meant to be reliably accessed during combat, where time is of the essence. I've never been a fan of hiding rules inside of other rules, but having discovered this it made sense- to me, at least. I think BoH should have had some extra text explaining intent, if the haversack is anything to go by. And yes, with 5e24 they buffed the haversack, rather than nerfed the bag of holding by explaining that it's more difficult to get items out of. [/QUOTE]
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