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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 9692816" data-attributes="member: 52734">It's harder these days to get players to wrap their heads around the idea that an encounter might be over their heads, and that running is a perfectly viable option.&nbsp; In my wife's recent campaign, twice we've had to back out an encounter that was more than we could handle - and if I hadn't been the one to say it out loud, the rest of the party would have just stayed in combat until they had been dropped.I have gotten into the habit of laying out the potential in Session 0 - &quot;Guys, there are going to be times you run across stuff you won't be able to smash your way through.&nbsp;&nbsp; Be prepared for it, and pull out if you feel the need.&nbsp;&nbsp; I am NOT going to save your bacon, that's up to you.&quot;But, players are stubborn, and sometimes they don't pick up on the clues or foreshadowing meant to warn them that they're in over their heads.&nbsp; With the likes of CRs, they get it into their head that everything is put together for them to defeat, right then and there.&nbsp; And, every once in a while, I sometimes as a DM don't realize that an encounter may be too much until half-way into the encounter.I don't try to be cruel, but I will let &quot;the chips fall where they may.&quot;&nbsp; Success is not guaranteed, and they can always make replacement characters to try again or take another path where the first failed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 9692816, member: 52734"] It's harder these days to get players to wrap their heads around the idea that an encounter might be over their heads, and that running is a perfectly viable option. In my wife's recent campaign, twice we've had to back out an encounter that was more than we could handle - and if I hadn't been the one to say it out loud, the rest of the party would have just stayed in combat until they had been dropped. I have gotten into the habit of laying out the potential in Session 0 - "Guys, there are going to be times you run across stuff you won't be able to smash your way through. Be prepared for it, and pull out if you feel the need. I am NOT going to save your bacon, that's up to you." But, players are stubborn, and sometimes they don't pick up on the clues or foreshadowing meant to warn them that they're in over their heads. With the likes of CRs, they get it into their head that everything is put together for them to defeat, right then and there. And, every once in a while, I sometimes as a DM don't realize that an encounter may be too much until half-way into the encounter. I don't try to be cruel, but I will let "the chips fall where they may." Success is not guaranteed, and they can always make replacement characters to try again or take another path where the first failed. [/QUOTE]

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