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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7821694" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>If in fact the document stirring up all this controversy was rooted in the writings of John Locke, and not, as is actually the case, drawing the specifics of its language from practices around sexual consent in BDSM situations and sexual consent in the context of larger social conversation around sexual consent on campuses, affirmative consent, the #metoo movement, and so forth then you might actually have a point. But the title "Consent in Gaming" didn't come out of having just read John Locke's '<em>Essay concerning Human Understanding'</em>. They are quite obviously treating all consent in gaming in this context as a medical/health issue and quite obviously appropriating language from the larger cultural discussion around sexual consent, not the least of which seems to be because the industry is dealing with sexual harassment and at the same time there are at the same time groups that want to make erotic content a part of their gaming. I protest however that not all issues of gaming together recreational need to be lumped together under this umbrella of "consent". That is to say, people's desire for emotionally and sometimes physically risky play, and predatory and inappropriate behavior at conventions, and the ordinary issues of playing together at a table involve particulars unique to those cases and lumping how we ought to handle them all together doesn't produce more effective solutions - but rather less effective solutions and less effective discussion about those solutions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7821694, member: 4937"] If in fact the document stirring up all this controversy was rooted in the writings of John Locke, and not, as is actually the case, drawing the specifics of its language from practices around sexual consent in BDSM situations and sexual consent in the context of larger social conversation around sexual consent on campuses, affirmative consent, the #metoo movement, and so forth then you might actually have a point. But the title "Consent in Gaming" didn't come out of having just read John Locke's '[I]Essay concerning Human Understanding'[/I]. They are quite obviously treating all consent in gaming in this context as a medical/health issue and quite obviously appropriating language from the larger cultural discussion around sexual consent, not the least of which seems to be because the industry is dealing with sexual harassment and at the same time there are at the same time groups that want to make erotic content a part of their gaming. I protest however that not all issues of gaming together recreational need to be lumped together under this umbrella of "consent". That is to say, people's desire for emotionally and sometimes physically risky play, and predatory and inappropriate behavior at conventions, and the ordinary issues of playing together at a table involve particulars unique to those cases and lumping how we ought to handle them all together doesn't produce more effective solutions - but rather less effective solutions and less effective discussion about those solutions. [/QUOTE]
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