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<blockquote data-quote="Deleted member 7015506" data-source="post: 7821993"><p>[USER=59554]@Panda-s1[/USER] </p><p>No I don´t have half-orcs in my games for the obvious reason (for me), that orcs are the baddies in my games and half-orcs are considered outcasts. They act as NPC yes, but are no playable race. Does this turn me into a racist? Well we talk about a fantasy game with fantasy races, sorry species (politically more correct nowadays I assume). So do we have to talk about the morality of branding a fictional species as "bad/evil" compared to the generally "good" species in a fictional game like D&D? </p><p>I am not a fan of games like "Achtung Cthulhu" or any other WWII RPG. I gave up wargaming for the simple fact, that the Shoah and the suffering of the Nazi regimes victims is always part of that period. I don´t want to minimize these suffering and killings in the slightest ways nor do I want to excuse them for one thought. But is it possible to leave out this dark chapter of history at least in FANTASY gaming? Is it possible to enjoy a game without having always Rl problems transferred to it? And that is exactly why I stated I don´t want this discussion to turn into this direction. I know there were/are discussions exactly about this subjects, but please forgive me, when I don´t want to partake in it. </p><p></p><p>Now I can´t comment on your personal experience since personal is personal. I deeply respect such things and the mentioned reaction by your DM is his thing. But in my games, it can happen once and I try to avoid such things for future situations. </p><p>But like said, if you keep your game civilized in a way, then such things should be prevented. For feedback I can only say, that a good DM is not only running the game, but also constantly observing the reactions of his players. And if necessary a good DM may alter some things, when he realizes, that players feel uncomfortable with it. But my question is, why is somebody not saying openly right at the moment of the inconvenience that he/she considers this thing to be offensive or feels unpleasant? Perhaps not everybody is made that way to speak open all the time, but is it really the responsibility of every Dm to always ask beforehand what makes a player feel uncomfortable? He won´t get a serious reply either, since it may be difficult for that person to speak openly. The basic problems persists even with the X-card, since it´s hanging like a Damokles sword over the table at every moment.</p><p></p><p>Do we really have to define the term "leisure time" in this context? If playing at my table, or any other table, is not leisure time, then I don´t know what.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Deleted member 7015506, post: 7821993"] [USER=59554]@Panda-s1[/USER] No I don´t have half-orcs in my games for the obvious reason (for me), that orcs are the baddies in my games and half-orcs are considered outcasts. They act as NPC yes, but are no playable race. Does this turn me into a racist? Well we talk about a fantasy game with fantasy races, sorry species (politically more correct nowadays I assume). So do we have to talk about the morality of branding a fictional species as "bad/evil" compared to the generally "good" species in a fictional game like D&D? I am not a fan of games like "Achtung Cthulhu" or any other WWII RPG. I gave up wargaming for the simple fact, that the Shoah and the suffering of the Nazi regimes victims is always part of that period. I don´t want to minimize these suffering and killings in the slightest ways nor do I want to excuse them for one thought. But is it possible to leave out this dark chapter of history at least in FANTASY gaming? Is it possible to enjoy a game without having always Rl problems transferred to it? And that is exactly why I stated I don´t want this discussion to turn into this direction. I know there were/are discussions exactly about this subjects, but please forgive me, when I don´t want to partake in it. Now I can´t comment on your personal experience since personal is personal. I deeply respect such things and the mentioned reaction by your DM is his thing. But in my games, it can happen once and I try to avoid such things for future situations. But like said, if you keep your game civilized in a way, then such things should be prevented. For feedback I can only say, that a good DM is not only running the game, but also constantly observing the reactions of his players. And if necessary a good DM may alter some things, when he realizes, that players feel uncomfortable with it. But my question is, why is somebody not saying openly right at the moment of the inconvenience that he/she considers this thing to be offensive or feels unpleasant? Perhaps not everybody is made that way to speak open all the time, but is it really the responsibility of every Dm to always ask beforehand what makes a player feel uncomfortable? He won´t get a serious reply either, since it may be difficult for that person to speak openly. The basic problems persists even with the X-card, since it´s hanging like a Damokles sword over the table at every moment. Do we really have to define the term "leisure time" in this context? If playing at my table, or any other table, is not leisure time, then I don´t know what. [/QUOTE]
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