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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7822602" data-attributes="member: 4937">Now, for the record, Hussar is someone that knows how to bait me.This is wrong in so many different ways that it took me a while to realize you were serious. How people can say things like this with a straight face is absolutely beyond me.Let's start with two facts before we turn to one of my favorite subjects, Lexicography.First, the definition provided for the non-dictionary jargon term bleed by the author was:"Experiencing moments where their real life feelings, thoughts, relationships, and physical states spill over into their characters’ and vice versa."You will note that this is not the literal definition bleed from the dictionary, both by your own cited evidence and that of Panda down below you. Neither of you actually showed the dictionary to contain this term. So we are already dealing with your inability to distinguish reality from fantasy.Secondly, the definition of "bleed" that was being discussed by billd91 was "an ink or dye that expands beyond its intended space" This is an actual normal dictionary definition of "bleed" albeit it is in my dictionary definition #4.  Now if you don't know much about dictionaries, the more usual and more literal definitions tend to be listed first, while the less common and more metaphorical definitions tended to be listed further down.Definition #1 in my my dictionary is "To lose blood from the body as a result of injury or illness".Definition #2 is "To draw blood from someone, as in the once common method of treatment in medicine"Definition #3 is "To allow a gas or liquid to escape from a closed system through a valve."You'd note that definition #3 since it doesn't involve literal blood is a metaphorical definition that has become such a common metaphor as to warrant it's own entry.  Bleeding literally involves blood - not say carbon dioxide or methane build up in a pipe.   To call that "bleeding" is a metaphor.Definition #4 with the ink or dye getting out of its intended space is also a metaphor.   So a definition of emotions doing that is a metaphor of a metaphor.   We are comparing emotions to ink in a way that was originally suggested by how inks behavior could be compared to blood.Panda-s1 adds his own screen shot just to prove you wrong as well, but then bizarrely and in defiance of what his eyes are actually showing him, claims it proves you right.Now I don't deny that "bleed" could be chosen as a metaphor to express something, including emotions, "that seeps out of its intended space." That would be a valid metaphor. But it would be a metaphor and not literal.  My argument is not that such a metaphor couldn't be made, or even that it isn't apt.  My argument is that it isn't useful.  I fully agree with Billd91's claim that it is a graphic metaphor.  Yes it is.And as a point of inarguable and objective fact, the definition, "Experiencing moments where their real life feelings, thoughts, relationships, and physical states spill over into their characters’ and vice versa." is not a literal dictionary definition of bleed, much less one that involves literal blood unless somehow the fantasy wounds are drawing literal blood.</blockquote>

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