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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7823875" data-attributes="member: 4937">[USER=57112]@Gradine[/USER]: No footnotes.&nbsp; The document doesn't have footnotes.Besides, I was too long in and around academia for that sort of argument from authority to carry much weight with me. I know how the sausage gets made. It's bad enough in the hard sciences, and it's even worse in the soft studies.I can't think of a worse way to represent our hobby to the general public than saying it is something that requires &quot;aftercare&quot; or giving bullet points like &quot;The default for consent is &quot;No&quot;&quot; that divorced from context could easily be a tract about sexual assault. Remember the occult scare happened in large part because of the careless inclusion of a lot of unnecessarily provocative art and names derived from real world esoteric/occult religious practice. In short, it wierded people out. The vast majority of the public, especially the ones with children, do not think it is &quot;cool&quot; when the game is associated with pornography (see the community's falling in and out of love with ZacS), and are likely to interpret documents like this very very differently than you are. They are going to go with their gut, and there gut is not going to say, &quot;Oh this makes me feel safe. This makes me feel like this is an activity where my daughter will be safe.&quot;&nbsp; So even from the perspective of &quot;inclusivity&quot; this is going to fail.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7823875, member: 4937"] [USER=57112]@Gradine[/USER]: No footnotes. The document doesn't have footnotes. Besides, I was too long in and around academia for that sort of argument from authority to carry much weight with me. I know how the sausage gets made. It's bad enough in the hard sciences, and it's even worse in the soft studies. I can't think of a worse way to represent our hobby to the general public than saying it is something that requires "aftercare" or giving bullet points like "The default for consent is "No"" that divorced from context could easily be a tract about sexual assault. Remember the occult scare happened in large part because of the careless inclusion of a lot of unnecessarily provocative art and names derived from real world esoteric/occult religious practice. In short, it wierded people out. The vast majority of the public, especially the ones with children, do not think it is "cool" when the game is associated with pornography (see the community's falling in and out of love with ZacS), and are likely to interpret documents like this very very differently than you are. They are going to go with their gut, and there gut is not going to say, "Oh this makes me feel safe. This makes me feel like this is an activity where my daughter will be safe." So even from the perspective of "inclusivity" this is going to fail. [/QUOTE]

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