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RPG Evolution: Who Invented the Ice Dragon?
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<blockquote data-quote="talien" data-source="post: 8786004" data-attributes="member: 3285"><p>Fire-breathing dragons are a well-known trope, but ice-breathing dragons are a relatively new beast to fantasy. Or are they?</p><p></p><p style="text-align: center">[ATTACH=full]262715[/ATTACH]</p> <p style="text-align: center"><a href="https://minvr.gov.ru/press-center/photogallery/23869/, Attribution, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=114640745" target="_blank">Picture by Ministry of the Russian Federation for the Development of the Far East (Ministry of the Development of the Far East)</a></p><h3>1979: Was It George?</h3><p>George R.R. Martin, author of the <strong>Song of Fire and Ice</strong> fantasy anthology that inspired the<strong> Game of Thrones</strong> television series, wrote a short story titled "The Ice Dragon" back in 1979. In the introduction to that story, <a href="https://mashable.com/article/george-rr-martin-the-ice-dragon-game-of-thrones-clues" target="_blank">Martin makes a surprising claim</a>:</p><p></p><p>Breaking that bold statement down, Martin is arguing that his ice dragon is unique because it combines two characteristics: it "breathes cold" and is "made of ice." We know Martin himself was well-acquainted with role-playing games, <a href="http://gamesvsplay.com/5-clues-that-prove-george-r-r-martin-writes-like-a-gm/" target="_blank">because he wrote one</a>:</p><p></p><p>So it seems likely Martin's reference to white dragons is to <strong>Dungeons & Dragons. </strong>But who's to say white dragons aren't made of ice?</p><h3>1974: Was it D&D?</h3><p>White dragons were introduced in the original boxed set with one line, "White Dragons will be found only in cold regions." Their statistics tell the rest of the story: they breath a cone of cold, have the lowest hit dice (5-7) and have the lowest chance of talking and the highest chance of being found sleeping. The rules don't explain the significance of a talking dragon but entries for the other dragon colors imply that talking is a prerequisite for casting spells.</p><p></p><p>This skeletal framework ensured change the legacy of white dragons in later editions. They were considered the least of the chromatic hierarchy, dumber and less powerful than their more ferocious cousins. There's no indication of what white dragons are made of, but there is one other clue: there are attacks they're vulnerable or resistant to, with a hit and damage modifier against them of -1 for water and earth, and a +1 for fire and lightning. Given that water damage does less harm to white dragons, it's entirely possible they could be made of ice. That booklet predates Martin's book by five years, published in 1974.</p><p></p><p>But co-creator Gary Gygax never claimed he invented the white dragon, and for good reason.</p><h3>1933: Was it Ruth Plumly Thompson?</h3><p>The second official Historian of the Oz series of books after Frank L. Baum was Ruth Plumly Thompson, who included all sorts of fantasy creatures in the Oz series. She was particularly fond of dragons, <a href="https://ozandends.blogspot.com/2006/11/original-ice-dragon.html" target="_blank">including an ice dragon</a>:</p><p></p><p>The dragon is described as being blue, not made of ice, but later when Realbad the bandit kills it (off screen, as this was a children's book), <a href="https://archive.org/details/ojoinozthom00thom/page/122/mode/2up?q=ice+dragon&view=theater" target="_blank">he explains how</a>:</p><p></p><p>So it seems the blue dragon was indeed made of ice. But Thompson wasn't the first person to create an ice dragon.</p><h3>1899: Was it E. Nesbit?</h3><p>Nesbit wrote about an ice dragon:</p><p></p><p>This dragon is made of ice through and through, as it melts later (a common theme when it comes to dragons made of ice) but does not breathe ice. It does turn everything that touches it to ice however, and it's implied that the dragon's presence freezes things.</p><p></p><p>So it's clear that ice dragons aren't unique. And neither are white dragons, who have a long history in mythology.</p><h3>828: Was it Nennius?</h3><p>The <strong>Historia Brttonum,</strong> a purported history of the indigenous British people, contains a story of King Vortigern and Ambrosius, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dragon" target="_blank">who reveals a disturbance caused by two dragons</a>:</p><p></p><p>There is no indication that the white dragon is made of ice or breathes cold, but it may provide a clue as to the origins of Gygaxian chromatic dragons. If that's the case, white dragons got the losing end of the deal, as the white dragon in this story is the red dragon's equal.</p><h3>So Who Created Ice Dragons?</h3><p>Martin was careful to explain that he considered the combined characteristics of a dragon made of ice that breathes cold to be unique. It's a fair interpretation. <strong>Dungeons & Dragons </strong>never explicitly said white dragons were made of ice, and later iterations were definitely flesh-and-blood creatures. Conversely, only a close reading of Thompson's work makes it clear that the blue dragon is made of ice and breathes cold, due in part to its death explained after the fact. And of course, white dragons have been around in myth as long as dragons have been in legend.</p><p></p><p>It's clear that Martin's ice dragon owes a debt to all the dragons that have gone before, including its measly ancestor, the underappreciated white dragon.</p><p></p><p><strong>Your Turn: Are your white dragons made of ice?</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="talien, post: 8786004, member: 3285"] Fire-breathing dragons are a well-known trope, but ice-breathing dragons are a relatively new beast to fantasy. Or are they? [CENTER][ATTACH type="full" alt="icedragon.jpg"]262715[/ATTACH] [URL='https://minvr.gov.ru/press-center/photogallery/23869/, Attribution, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=114640745']Picture by Ministry of the Russian Federation for the Development of the Far East (Ministry of the Development of the Far East)[/URL][/CENTER] [HEADING=2]1979: Was It George?[/HEADING] George R.R. Martin, author of the [B]Song of Fire and Ice[/B] fantasy anthology that inspired the[B] Game of Thrones[/B] television series, wrote a short story titled "The Ice Dragon" back in 1979. In the introduction to that story, [URL='https://mashable.com/article/george-rr-martin-the-ice-dragon-game-of-thrones-clues']Martin makes a surprising claim[/URL]: Breaking that bold statement down, Martin is arguing that his ice dragon is unique because it combines two characteristics: it "breathes cold" and is "made of ice." We know Martin himself was well-acquainted with role-playing games, [URL='http://gamesvsplay.com/5-clues-that-prove-george-r-r-martin-writes-like-a-gm/']because he wrote one[/URL]: So it seems likely Martin's reference to white dragons is to [B]Dungeons & Dragons. [/B]But who's to say white dragons aren't made of ice? [HEADING=2]1974: Was it D&D?[/HEADING] White dragons were introduced in the original boxed set with one line, "White Dragons will be found only in cold regions." Their statistics tell the rest of the story: they breath a cone of cold, have the lowest hit dice (5-7) and have the lowest chance of talking and the highest chance of being found sleeping. The rules don't explain the significance of a talking dragon but entries for the other dragon colors imply that talking is a prerequisite for casting spells. This skeletal framework ensured change the legacy of white dragons in later editions. They were considered the least of the chromatic hierarchy, dumber and less powerful than their more ferocious cousins. There's no indication of what white dragons are made of, but there is one other clue: there are attacks they're vulnerable or resistant to, with a hit and damage modifier against them of -1 for water and earth, and a +1 for fire and lightning. Given that water damage does less harm to white dragons, it's entirely possible they could be made of ice. That booklet predates Martin's book by five years, published in 1974. But co-creator Gary Gygax never claimed he invented the white dragon, and for good reason. [HEADING=2]1933: Was it Ruth Plumly Thompson?[/HEADING] The second official Historian of the Oz series of books after Frank L. Baum was Ruth Plumly Thompson, who included all sorts of fantasy creatures in the Oz series. She was particularly fond of dragons, [URL='https://ozandends.blogspot.com/2006/11/original-ice-dragon.html']including an ice dragon[/URL]: The dragon is described as being blue, not made of ice, but later when Realbad the bandit kills it (off screen, as this was a children's book), [URL='https://archive.org/details/ojoinozthom00thom/page/122/mode/2up?q=ice+dragon&view=theater']he explains how[/URL]: So it seems the blue dragon was indeed made of ice. But Thompson wasn't the first person to create an ice dragon. [HEADING=2]1899: Was it E. Nesbit?[/HEADING] Nesbit wrote about an ice dragon: This dragon is made of ice through and through, as it melts later (a common theme when it comes to dragons made of ice) but does not breathe ice. It does turn everything that touches it to ice however, and it's implied that the dragon's presence freezes things. So it's clear that ice dragons aren't unique. And neither are white dragons, who have a long history in mythology. [HEADING=2]828: Was it Nennius?[/HEADING] The [B]Historia Brttonum,[/B] a purported history of the indigenous British people, contains a story of King Vortigern and Ambrosius, [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_dragon']who reveals a disturbance caused by two dragons[/URL]: There is no indication that the white dragon is made of ice or breathes cold, but it may provide a clue as to the origins of Gygaxian chromatic dragons. If that's the case, white dragons got the losing end of the deal, as the white dragon in this story is the red dragon's equal. [HEADING=2]So Who Created Ice Dragons?[/HEADING] Martin was careful to explain that he considered the combined characteristics of a dragon made of ice that breathes cold to be unique. It's a fair interpretation. [B]Dungeons & Dragons [/B]never explicitly said white dragons were made of ice, and later iterations were definitely flesh-and-blood creatures. Conversely, only a close reading of Thompson's work makes it clear that the blue dragon is made of ice and breathes cold, due in part to its death explained after the fact. And of course, white dragons have been around in myth as long as dragons have been in legend. It's clear that Martin's ice dragon owes a debt to all the dragons that have gone before, including its measly ancestor, the underappreciated white dragon. [B]Your Turn: Are your white dragons made of ice?[/B] [/QUOTE]
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