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<blockquote data-quote="Tigris" data-source="post: 9873551" data-attributes="member: 7043270"><p>Or maybe because they know their parents want them to hear say this and they feel forced to comply? (Or because parents told them over and over thst too much digital is bad and real books are not bad. Like how many parents dont allow children to watch tv foe a long time or play vomputer games for a long time but allow them to read before sleeping).</p><p></p><p>Parents have a huge influence on what children "think" (or say they think). Of course overall there can of course be different preferences!</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Learning Types:</strong></p><p></p><p>Still a lot a lot of this discussion reminds me about "Leaening types".</p><p></p><p></p><p>Like how some people call themselves visual learners etc. Some people might also say that they learn faster by a physical book while others feel they learn fadter with digitsl media.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But here the same problems applies: Learning types do not exist, they are disproven since 15 years (but myths sre often hard to get ridd of).</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Reasons why one might believe physical or digital is more efficient:</strong></p><p></p><p>So why might some people feelbetter by doing X rathet than Y?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well some learning methods are proven to be more effective (but it makes not a big difference so this plays a small role if at all).</p><p></p><p></p><p>A much better explanation is normally time spent. When people like something they spend a lot more time with it and underestimate how much time they spent with it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Similar "when I read a book I can remember it bettet than when reading a pdf" well many people read a lot slower reading books than pdf (page turning, eye jumping), so spend way more time with it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Also people are more likely to fully concentrate of something they like. So when someone reads a book they might just do that, but when reading a pdf on a tablet you may have the tv on, because books are "more holy/ jenaysequa" for you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course this all only applies if people can use a medium reasonably well. If people cant read, or cant really use a tablet (or dont see well enough for letters in physicsl books) then that is not effectice for them.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>What influences learning speed</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>3 things which do have a big influence in learning speed are:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Preexisting knowledge. The more similar things you know the easier to learn it. So if books you read are all from old school style D&D clones, one is a lot faster learning them (if one knew old school D&D) than if one reads a completely new system as a pdf because it did not even release as a book.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Intelligence makes a big difference. I always prefered for learning to "just listen to the teacher" because this is really low effort and thanks to my high intelligence it worked for me. For others this is not enough and they might need to (also) read a book which is a bigger effort. However, no matter how much I dont like books, in the end I can also learn relatively fast by skimming a book, I just dont like it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The last big factor in learning efficiency is the teacher. And they are a big factor. Remember how I above said thst some teaching methods are more efficient than others? Well funily when you compsre really good teachers they suddenly almost do not matter anymore. The best teachers using the worst method get pretty much identical results as the best teachers using the best methods. (And sadly way more time and effort is spent into trying to develop better teaching methods instead of finding better teachers...) Still not every teacher is good with every method. A teacher needing to use a teaching method they dont like will not have good results. So if students are bad at learning with digital media, it might also just be the teacher who is not good teaching using modern media.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tigris, post: 9873551, member: 7043270"] Or maybe because they know their parents want them to hear say this and they feel forced to comply? (Or because parents told them over and over thst too much digital is bad and real books are not bad. Like how many parents dont allow children to watch tv foe a long time or play vomputer games for a long time but allow them to read before sleeping). Parents have a huge influence on what children "think" (or say they think). Of course overall there can of course be different preferences! [B]Learning Types:[/B] Still a lot a lot of this discussion reminds me about "Leaening types". Like how some people call themselves visual learners etc. Some people might also say that they learn faster by a physical book while others feel they learn fadter with digitsl media. But here the same problems applies: Learning types do not exist, they are disproven since 15 years (but myths sre often hard to get ridd of). [B]Reasons why one might believe physical or digital is more efficient:[/B] So why might some people feelbetter by doing X rathet than Y? Well some learning methods are proven to be more effective (but it makes not a big difference so this plays a small role if at all). A much better explanation is normally time spent. When people like something they spend a lot more time with it and underestimate how much time they spent with it. Similar "when I read a book I can remember it bettet than when reading a pdf" well many people read a lot slower reading books than pdf (page turning, eye jumping), so spend way more time with it. Also people are more likely to fully concentrate of something they like. So when someone reads a book they might just do that, but when reading a pdf on a tablet you may have the tv on, because books are "more holy/ jenaysequa" for you. Of course this all only applies if people can use a medium reasonably well. If people cant read, or cant really use a tablet (or dont see well enough for letters in physicsl books) then that is not effectice for them. [B]What influences learning speed[/B] 3 things which do have a big influence in learning speed are: Preexisting knowledge. The more similar things you know the easier to learn it. So if books you read are all from old school style D&D clones, one is a lot faster learning them (if one knew old school D&D) than if one reads a completely new system as a pdf because it did not even release as a book. Intelligence makes a big difference. I always prefered for learning to "just listen to the teacher" because this is really low effort and thanks to my high intelligence it worked for me. For others this is not enough and they might need to (also) read a book which is a bigger effort. However, no matter how much I dont like books, in the end I can also learn relatively fast by skimming a book, I just dont like it. The last big factor in learning efficiency is the teacher. And they are a big factor. Remember how I above said thst some teaching methods are more efficient than others? Well funily when you compsre really good teachers they suddenly almost do not matter anymore. The best teachers using the worst method get pretty much identical results as the best teachers using the best methods. (And sadly way more time and effort is spent into trying to develop better teaching methods instead of finding better teachers...) Still not every teacher is good with every method. A teacher needing to use a teaching method they dont like will not have good results. So if students are bad at learning with digital media, it might also just be the teacher who is not good teaching using modern media. [/QUOTE]
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