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<blockquote data-quote="The Black Ferret" data-source="post: 7331934" data-attributes="member: 6935532"><p>I'm not a lawyer, but I've dealt with a lot of rules lawyers... Anyway, I'd like to take a stab at this from the perspective of "I've seen a lot of police procedurals." </p><p></p><p>Well, the first thing to remember is that, regardless of how bad the perp is, the cops don't like civilians doing their job, and the rest of the city's law enforcement will likely feel the same, so the prosecuting attorney will try to make as much stick as possible. you'll see thins in real court cases, too. They will throw every charge they can at the suspect, so they know that they can get something on them. This isn't just about "police ego" or anything. Once you start looking like you are turning a blind eye to vigilantism, then you've opened Pandora's Box.</p><p></p><p>As for charges, firstly, there is the question of reasonable force. Did they need to be shot 4 times? Maybe they did, but the question would be enough to draw up charges for an inquiry. Especially if the guy they shot did not have a gun on him.</p><p></p><p>There could also be charges of.... let's interpret it as practicing medicine without a license. They stitched up the wounds, but why wouldn't they call EMTs first? It's one thing to apply first aid while waiting for 911 to show up, but to take the time to do amateur surgery and then take them to the hospital afterwards, rather than contact emergency services immediately would be considered questionable. They would be looking at it from the perspective of "what if you didn't get him to the real doctors in time?"</p><p></p><p>Kidnapping, actually, could be a perfectly valid charge. Citizen's arrest does not include "citizen's prison" or "citizen's interrogation room." If the guy was taken someplace, which is not a police station, against his will by someone not duly authorized to do so, then that is kidnapping.</p><p></p><p>Just a few initial thoughts off the top of my head.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Black Ferret, post: 7331934, member: 6935532"] I'm not a lawyer, but I've dealt with a lot of rules lawyers... Anyway, I'd like to take a stab at this from the perspective of "I've seen a lot of police procedurals." Well, the first thing to remember is that, regardless of how bad the perp is, the cops don't like civilians doing their job, and the rest of the city's law enforcement will likely feel the same, so the prosecuting attorney will try to make as much stick as possible. you'll see thins in real court cases, too. They will throw every charge they can at the suspect, so they know that they can get something on them. This isn't just about "police ego" or anything. Once you start looking like you are turning a blind eye to vigilantism, then you've opened Pandora's Box. As for charges, firstly, there is the question of reasonable force. Did they need to be shot 4 times? Maybe they did, but the question would be enough to draw up charges for an inquiry. Especially if the guy they shot did not have a gun on him. There could also be charges of.... let's interpret it as practicing medicine without a license. They stitched up the wounds, but why wouldn't they call EMTs first? It's one thing to apply first aid while waiting for 911 to show up, but to take the time to do amateur surgery and then take them to the hospital afterwards, rather than contact emergency services immediately would be considered questionable. They would be looking at it from the perspective of "what if you didn't get him to the real doctors in time?" Kidnapping, actually, could be a perfectly valid charge. Citizen's arrest does not include "citizen's prison" or "citizen's interrogation room." If the guy was taken someplace, which is not a police station, against his will by someone not duly authorized to do so, then that is kidnapping. Just a few initial thoughts off the top of my head. [/QUOTE]
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