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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 8629824" data-attributes="member: 3400"><p>That's the problem - and the bias of the survey. By, as they put it, <strong>arbitrarily </strong>excluding anyone over 35 based on their internal analysis (read: assumptions), they bias the survey. How much, <strong>we really don't know</strong>. They don't tell us if they received any responses from anyone over 35 or if the criteria of the survey suppressed all responses from that age group.</p><p></p><p>One thing to keep in mind, however, is that the age cutoff omits pretty much all baby boomers from the survey. It effectively starts with, and is largely focused on, GenX. As much as that may gratify me a little since we're the generation otherwise most overlooked, Boomers outnumbered us by 10-12 million people at that point (we're still not expected to outnumber them until about 2028). And there have been notable differences between our generations in terms of settled employment and ability to generate wealth - GenX may have OK income these days, but we have traditionally held a lot more debt than the Boomers (though we're not as badly hit as the Millennials).</p><p></p><p>One other thing to consider - Ryan Dancey excoriated TSR for not listening to its customers. And rightfully so. This survey only partly addressed that problem because they, apparently, chose to not listen to the pre-GenX segment of their market based on their internal analysis (which is what got them into so much trouble in the first place). Were they right to do so? <strong>I have no idea</strong>. But I do know that there have always been a lot of players more than 3-4 years older than me in the hobby - still are. Gary Con is chock full of them. So, I remain skeptical that it was the right move to arbitrarily bias the survey in such a way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="billd91, post: 8629824, member: 3400"] That's the problem - and the bias of the survey. By, as they put it, [B]arbitrarily [/B]excluding anyone over 35 based on their internal analysis (read: assumptions), they bias the survey. How much, [B]we really don't know[/B]. They don't tell us if they received any responses from anyone over 35 or if the criteria of the survey suppressed all responses from that age group. One thing to keep in mind, however, is that the age cutoff omits pretty much all baby boomers from the survey. It effectively starts with, and is largely focused on, GenX. As much as that may gratify me a little since we're the generation otherwise most overlooked, Boomers outnumbered us by 10-12 million people at that point (we're still not expected to outnumber them until about 2028). And there have been notable differences between our generations in terms of settled employment and ability to generate wealth - GenX may have OK income these days, but we have traditionally held a lot more debt than the Boomers (though we're not as badly hit as the Millennials). One other thing to consider - Ryan Dancey excoriated TSR for not listening to its customers. And rightfully so. This survey only partly addressed that problem because they, apparently, chose to not listen to the pre-GenX segment of their market based on their internal analysis (which is what got them into so much trouble in the first place). Were they right to do so? [B]I have no idea[/B]. But I do know that there have always been a lot of players more than 3-4 years older than me in the hobby - still are. Gary Con is chock full of them. So, I remain skeptical that it was the right move to arbitrarily bias the survey in such a way. [/QUOTE]
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