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<blockquote data-quote="bloodtide" data-source="post: 8704455" data-attributes="member: 6684958">I do player intelligence, always.&nbsp; I make the game for the players.&nbsp; They need to use their own skills and abilities in the game.&nbsp; Not &quot;the characters&quot;.For the &quot;average&quot; player that wants to play a &quot;genius&quot; character, I will just tell them that is impossible.&nbsp; A player can't &quot;really in the game&quot; fake being smarter then they are in real life.&nbsp; The player can &quot;act smart&quot;, sure, but they can't &quot;be smart&quot;.Even the Best Case here is horrible.&nbsp; This is where the player has their character act like their normal &quot;average&quot; self and once in a while will roll an intelligence check to ask the DM &quot;so what would my smart character do&quot;.&nbsp; If the player makes the roll, the DM then effectively takes control of the character and even worse railroads the character.&nbsp; Sure, in theory, the player can choose not to take the &quot;advise of their smart character&quot;....but they they are not playing a smart character then, so why even roll?Worse is all the &quot;average&quot; players choices will often get themselves into lots of trouble.&nbsp; Trouble that could have been avoided if the player had been playing the DM railroaded smart character.It's the same with the &quot;below average&quot; player.&nbsp; The only way for them to &quot;play smart&quot; is to do the DM railroaded smart character.&nbsp; I would note you can have a &quot;Quantum Railroad&quot; game where whatever the smart person says alters game reality.&nbsp; The writers on shows like Sherlock and Doctor Who do this a lot.&nbsp; The aliens are about to invade, and the Doctor pulls out of no where a stick of butter and idiotically says &quot;the aliens are afraid of butter&quot;.&nbsp; Then the aliens go &quot;Aiiiie! Butter!&quot; and flee Earth.I'm always ready to help a player with things to read or watch to help them have more knowledge about a topic.&nbsp; So they can really have the knowledge and use it in the game.&nbsp; I can even work with an interested player outside the game.For the &quot;average&quot; player acting out a dumb character.....I just leave it alone.&nbsp; The normal actions of the player work out fine for &quot;low intelligence characters&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bloodtide, post: 8704455, member: 6684958"] I do player intelligence, always. I make the game for the players. They need to use their own skills and abilities in the game. Not "the characters". For the "average" player that wants to play a "genius" character, I will just tell them that is impossible. A player can't "really in the game" fake being smarter then they are in real life. The player can "act smart", sure, but they can't "be smart". Even the Best Case here is horrible. This is where the player has their character act like their normal "average" self and once in a while will roll an intelligence check to ask the DM "so what would my smart character do". If the player makes the roll, the DM then effectively takes control of the character and even worse railroads the character. Sure, in theory, the player can choose not to take the "advise of their smart character"....but they they are not playing a smart character then, so why even roll? Worse is all the "average" players choices will often get themselves into lots of trouble. Trouble that could have been avoided if the player had been playing the DM railroaded smart character. It's the same with the "below average" player. The only way for them to "play smart" is to do the DM railroaded smart character. I would note you can have a "Quantum Railroad" game where whatever the smart person says alters game reality. The writers on shows like Sherlock and Doctor Who do this a lot. The aliens are about to invade, and the Doctor pulls out of no where a stick of butter and idiotically says "the aliens are afraid of butter". Then the aliens go "Aiiiie! Butter!" and flee Earth. I'm always ready to help a player with things to read or watch to help them have more knowledge about a topic. So they can really have the knowledge and use it in the game. I can even work with an interested player outside the game. For the "average" player acting out a dumb character.....I just leave it alone. The normal actions of the player work out fine for "low intelligence characters". [/QUOTE]

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