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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8445011" data-attributes="member: 177">Ever see the musical RENT?&nbsp; It centers around a group of pauperized artistic bohemians in New York City during the height of the AIDS epidemic, and in part concerns their rejection of a development project.&nbsp; There's a structural problem with the piece, when you look beyond the surface.&nbsp; You are set up to view the bohemians in a positive light, but if you think about it, the supposed antagonist of the piece is trying to help them.&nbsp; What he offers is a good, well-thought-out plan that would be of benefit to the central characters themselves, and to their community.&nbsp; It is rejected not for its results, but because it does not fit in with bohemian ideals.Never mind that &quot;bohemian ideals&quot; lead to malnutrition, drug use, living without power and heat, and dying of AIDS.Basically, the work rests on the idea that &quot;bohemian&quot; is good, no matter what the results (like, death and misery) might be.Avant garde has a similar issue - being at the forefront doesn't itself mean the results are valuable.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8445011, member: 177"] Ever see the musical [I]RENT[/I]? It centers around a group of pauperized artistic bohemians in New York City during the height of the AIDS epidemic, and in part concerns their rejection of a development project. There's a structural problem with the piece, when you look beyond the surface. You are set up to view the bohemians in a positive light, but if you think about it, the supposed antagonist of the piece is [I]trying to help them[/I]. What he offers is a good, well-thought-out plan that would be of benefit to the central characters themselves, and to their community. It is rejected not for its results, but because it does not fit in with bohemian ideals. Never mind that "bohemian ideals" lead to malnutrition, drug use, living without power and heat, and dying of AIDS. Basically, the work rests on the idea that "bohemian" is good, no matter what the results (like, death and misery) might be. Avant garde has a similar issue - being at the forefront doesn't itself mean the results are valuable. [/QUOTE]

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