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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8445993" data-attributes="member: 7026617">Well, and to make it abundantly clear I'm not claiming this is the only factor, when one of the two has been the public face of the hobby for almost fifty years now I don't think you can at least write-off a big part of it being because one of the two is immensely more well known and has had a vastly longer time to generate an extent community.&nbsp; That doesn't mean there aren't people who genuinely and legitimately prefer the D&amp;D structure for any number of reasons, but I at least think you have to make some effort to factor the prior issues in when assessing that.&nbsp; As I've noted before, if you're playing with groups for whom trying anything new is not a thing they normally do, and you get interested in Savage Worlds--then what?&nbsp; Do you abandon your extent game just to try it out?&nbsp; If you're not big into online play (and even with COVID, some people really aren't) can you even find somewhere to try it?I think its just really easy for people who feel like D&amp;D and its kin are being dismissed to ignore the really massive gravitational advantage it has these days, even if other games are, to some extent, more accessible than they once were.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 8445993, member: 7026617"] Well, and to make it abundantly clear I'm not claiming this is the only factor, when one of the two has been the public face of the hobby for almost fifty years now I don't think you can at least write-off a big part of it being because one of the two is immensely more well known and has had a vastly longer time to generate an extent community. That doesn't mean there aren't people who genuinely and legitimately prefer the D&D structure for any number of reasons, but I at least think you have to make some effort to factor the prior issues in when assessing that. As I've noted before, if you're playing with groups for whom trying anything new is not a thing they normally do, and you get interested in Savage Worlds--then what? Do you abandon your extent game just to try it out? If you're not big into online play (and even with COVID, some people really aren't) can you even find somewhere to try it? I think its just really easy for people who feel like D&D and its kin are being dismissed to ignore the really massive gravitational advantage it has these days, even if other games are, to some extent, more accessible than they once were. [/QUOTE]

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