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<blockquote data-quote="Campbell" data-source="post: 8446981" data-attributes="member: 16586"><p>I agree with much of what Avery had to say. This is pretty much the only space I ever bring up Forge stuff. I mostly prefer post-Forge stuff. It's just that in this particular space I often feel like I'm stuck in the 1990s talking to the White Wolf magazine crowd. Just like getting across that there are like other options than sandboxes and railroads feels daunting. Even expressing that we can like frame scenes, have players just play their character, see what happens, and then frame new scenes just feels like pulling teeth. Every time I see stuff like the inherent cynicism towards people wanting their characters to like matter or get called selfish when I clearly express a preference (with no expectation people will share my preference) it only feeds into the sense that it's still important to keep saying these things. Not because people should play like I play, but because I feel like even after 20 damn years I have to fight for right to even exist and be seen in this space. To even be part of the damn conversation.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Campbell, post: 8446981, member: 16586"] I agree with much of what Avery had to say. This is pretty much the only space I ever bring up Forge stuff. I mostly prefer post-Forge stuff. It's just that in this particular space I often feel like I'm stuck in the 1990s talking to the White Wolf magazine crowd. Just like getting across that there are like other options than sandboxes and railroads feels daunting. Even expressing that we can like frame scenes, have players just play their character, see what happens, and then frame new scenes just feels like pulling teeth. Every time I see stuff like the inherent cynicism towards people wanting their characters to like matter or get called selfish when I clearly express a preference (with no expectation people will share my preference) it only feeds into the sense that it's still important to keep saying these things. Not because people should play like I play, but because I feel like even after 20 damn years I have to fight for right to even exist and be seen in this space. To even be part of the damn conversation. [/QUOTE]

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