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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 8447861" data-attributes="member: 5142">I learned this the hard way during the 3e era. That was a time when we witnessed people trying to get D&amp;D or the d20 system to do everything under the sun. I myself was one of those people who was trying to engineer first D&amp;D and then the d20 system in a way that I could play the sort of games or even the sort of fantasy adventure that I wanted, but to little or no avail. It wasn't generally worth the effort. The closest that I got to a d20 toolkit system that I could customize for the sort of campaign settings I wanted was Blue Rose and True 20. Eventually I gave up and had to admit that D&amp;D does D&amp;D style fantasy adventure well, but it will fight you tooth and claw when you try to get it to do something else. What do you think are the breaking points of the system? What can't the game do well? What shouldn't D&amp;D be used for? At what point do you recommend to someone that they may be better off playing another game? I'm incredibly skeptical.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 8447861, member: 5142"] I learned this the hard way during the 3e era. That was a time when we witnessed people trying to get D&D or the d20 system to do everything under the sun. I myself was one of those people who was trying to engineer first D&D and then the d20 system in a way that I could play the sort of games or even the sort of fantasy adventure that I wanted, but to little or no avail. It wasn't generally worth the effort. The closest that I got to a d20 toolkit system that I could customize for the sort of campaign settings I wanted was Blue Rose and True 20. Eventually I gave up and had to admit that D&D does D&D style fantasy adventure well, but it will fight you tooth and claw when you try to get it to do something else. What do you think are the breaking points of the system? What can't the game do well? What shouldn't D&D be used for? At what point do you recommend to someone that they may be better off playing another game? I'm incredibly skeptical. [/QUOTE]

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