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RPG Theory- The Limits of My Language are the Limits of My World
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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 8451664" data-attributes="member: 6785785"><p>Maybe try to stop looking at comments on a specific game or approach to play as being specifically about your playstyle? </p><p></p><p>If I make a statement about sandbox play, it's about sandbox play. It's not about everyone who plays and enjoys sandbox play. Such folks can and should be free to share their thoughts, which may disagree with mine. That's fine. That's discussion. </p><p></p><p>I don't think anyone's goal in these discussions is to get everyone to all like the same exact stuff for the same exact reasons.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyone can define the terms theiy're using. It's not about one instead of the other. If I make a comment about sandbox games, I should likely include something like "I mean sandbox in the sense of old school hexcrawls like Isle of Dread" or similar clarifying statement. That means that person is specifically talking about a sandbox in that way. So any response that doesn't engage with that premise but instead starts with "Actually, sandbox play means X because...." is not actually addressing the statement. For the purpose of the conversation, participants should read "sandbox" as "old school heaxcrawls like Isle of Dread". So if you're going to respond to the actual idea that's being put forth, then you should be engaging with old school hexcrawls like Isle of Dread.</p><p></p><p>If you tell me that you think of railroading as X, shouldn't I accept that for the sake of discussion? Even if I have a different idea of what railroading may be? Is it possible that me sharing my definition of railroading may help the conversation? Yes, it's possible. Is it necessary? No, it's not necessary, not for me to understand what you mean, and for me to respond in kind with any thoughts that inspires, whether agreement or disagreement.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Perhaps not. I'm not quite sure what you mean here. If someone is taking the time to explain their theory and how it connects to other ideas and concepts, I'm not really going to worry about how it accounts for my idea. It's their idea, they don't need to consider my thoughts in any way. </p><p></p><p>That doesn't mean I can't have and share opinions about the idea. But this apparent need for all possible opinions to be considered when a person describes their thoughts on something they like or don't like is a bit bizarre.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 8451664, member: 6785785"] Maybe try to stop looking at comments on a specific game or approach to play as being specifically about your playstyle? If I make a statement about sandbox play, it's about sandbox play. It's not about everyone who plays and enjoys sandbox play. Such folks can and should be free to share their thoughts, which may disagree with mine. That's fine. That's discussion. I don't think anyone's goal in these discussions is to get everyone to all like the same exact stuff for the same exact reasons. Anyone can define the terms theiy're using. It's not about one instead of the other. If I make a comment about sandbox games, I should likely include something like "I mean sandbox in the sense of old school hexcrawls like Isle of Dread" or similar clarifying statement. That means that person is specifically talking about a sandbox in that way. So any response that doesn't engage with that premise but instead starts with "Actually, sandbox play means X because...." is not actually addressing the statement. For the purpose of the conversation, participants should read "sandbox" as "old school heaxcrawls like Isle of Dread". So if you're going to respond to the actual idea that's being put forth, then you should be engaging with old school hexcrawls like Isle of Dread. If you tell me that you think of railroading as X, shouldn't I accept that for the sake of discussion? Even if I have a different idea of what railroading may be? Is it possible that me sharing my definition of railroading may help the conversation? Yes, it's possible. Is it necessary? No, it's not necessary, not for me to understand what you mean, and for me to respond in kind with any thoughts that inspires, whether agreement or disagreement. Perhaps not. I'm not quite sure what you mean here. If someone is taking the time to explain their theory and how it connects to other ideas and concepts, I'm not really going to worry about how it accounts for my idea. It's their idea, they don't need to consider my thoughts in any way. That doesn't mean I can't have and share opinions about the idea. But this apparent need for all possible opinions to be considered when a person describes their thoughts on something they like or don't like is a bit bizarre. [/QUOTE]
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