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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9273778" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>This seems like dancing goalposts to me. His response to you was specifically to the post where you compared the flavor text of Fireball, and both [USER=6704184]@doctorbadwolf[/USER] and I replied to that, and you respond with something about Magic Missile. I agree that Magic Missile is a fairly vanilla spell and in ALL editions the actual color amounts to not much. The 4e Essentials version that I quoted seemed the most colorful of all though. I think THE BEST you can really assert is you, or I, like certain individual descriptions more or less. At a random guess if we're both being unbiased and comparing 5e and 4e descriptions of things, we'd only expect to agree half the time, right? Honestly I don't know why you want to die on this hill, as we actually seem to agree that flavor text is fine, and neither of us seems to be objecting to segregating it from mechanics. So what is the dispute here? If it is just &quot;4e is always wrongbad&quot; then I guess we're done, 'cause I don't think that way.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 9273778, member: 82106"] This seems like dancing goalposts to me. His response to you was specifically to the post where you compared the flavor text of Fireball, and both [USER=6704184]@doctorbadwolf[/USER] and I replied to that, and you respond with something about Magic Missile. I agree that Magic Missile is a fairly vanilla spell and in ALL editions the actual color amounts to not much. The 4e Essentials version that I quoted seemed the most colorful of all though. I think THE BEST you can really assert is you, or I, like certain individual descriptions more or less. At a random guess if we're both being unbiased and comparing 5e and 4e descriptions of things, we'd only expect to agree half the time, right? Honestly I don't know why you want to die on this hill, as we actually seem to agree that flavor text is fine, and neither of us seems to be objecting to segregating it from mechanics. So what is the dispute here? If it is just "4e is always wrongbad" then I guess we're done, 'cause I don't think that way. [/QUOTE]

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