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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9211684" data-attributes="member: 6795602">Please describe what's missing from the rules to handle a player declaring their PC jumps (or better phrased, tries to jump) over some obstacle the DM has described?DM: &quot;the house contains a kitchen and a fireplace, etc etc, what is PC Frogreaver standing near in the house&quot;Frogreaver: &quot;if the fireplace has hot coals in it then i'll be warming myself by the fire.&quot;DM: &quot;yea the fireplace has hot coals in it, so you are warming yourself by the fire.&quot;There's no back and forth about those details.&nbsp; There is a discussion that includes the introduction of those details, but surely that's not what you are talking about?The DM asks the player what the PC is doing/wearing/etc.&nbsp; The player responds.I wouldn't call it 'discussing things back and forth until they arrive at a shared understanding of what is happening'.&nbsp; Normally they are introducing details, either when asked or voluntarily, and the goal of doing that isn't for a shared understanding - it's to progress play forward.&nbsp; A shared understanding is essential - but that's arrived at not by this back and forth discussion, but by adhering to the rules, especially the ones around who gets to say what.&nbsp; As long as the right participant is saying something, then everyone imagines that.&nbsp; If there's some additional detail that's not been described yet but might be important to their next move, then the player or DM asks about that detail.&nbsp; That detail's existence or lack of existence is determined and then play progresses.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 9211684, member: 6795602"] Please describe what's missing from the rules to handle a player declaring their PC jumps (or better phrased, tries to jump) over some obstacle the DM has described? DM: "the house contains a kitchen and a fireplace, etc etc, what is PC Frogreaver standing near in the house" Frogreaver: "if the fireplace has hot coals in it then i'll be warming myself by the fire." DM: "yea the fireplace has hot coals in it, so you are warming yourself by the fire." There's no back and forth about those details. There is a discussion that includes the introduction of those details, but surely that's not what you are talking about? The DM asks the player what the PC is doing/wearing/etc. The player responds. I wouldn't call it 'discussing things back and forth until they arrive at a shared understanding of what is happening'. Normally they are introducing details, either when asked or voluntarily, and the goal of doing that isn't for a shared understanding - it's to progress play forward. A shared understanding is essential - but that's arrived at not by this back and forth discussion, but by adhering to the rules, especially the ones around who gets to say what. As long as the right participant is saying something, then everyone imagines that. If there's some additional detail that's not been described yet but might be important to their next move, then the player or DM asks about that detail. That detail's existence or lack of existence is determined and then play progresses. [/QUOTE]

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