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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9213909" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>You are typically very reasonable so let me ask this -</p><p>Couldn't I say the same about any of the words or phrases I complain about - especially the 'my definition is right and yours wrong part'. And if I did, how would you respond?</p><p></p><p>And also let me say this: connotation vs denotation isn't a helpful line of differentiation as what inevitably will happen is that I or the other party will say my denotation is incorrect. Which places us immediately into a disagreement about semantics. It's still essentially the same discussion whether we argue connotations or denotations.</p><p></p><p>*I'll dedicate a separate post to the specifics of 'writers room'</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yea I share that concern, just for other terms and other games.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again - imagine if I told you the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks. I'm trying to do the same toward you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, funny thing - I don't agree with your definition. Which i think is what I just predicted generally happens in all these instances. I don't think that was the definition [USER=7025508]@Crimson Longinus[/USER] was using when he compared that specific thing to 'writers room'. But that puts us right back to 'semantics bad...' So i'm not really sure where we go from here as that's a conversation you've made clear that you don't want to have.</p><p></p><p>*Also, I've not strongly advocated for the use of 'writers room'. My part here is more on the principles behind these things. If I recall correctly it wasn't too long ago that I had to specifically ask what it meant and the explanation provided made sense to me. I can also see why things don't fit the definition you gave. But the larger meta questions are - is that the correct definition, if not then are the things you incorporate into the definition part of the connotation - and unfortunately those kinds of meta questions are what this whole discussion of ours hinges upon - but not just for 'writers room' but also for every other word and term that's ever been disputed.</p><p></p><p>Edit (late addition). For what it’s worth, I’m good never using the term writers room again. But I’m not willing to do that against a backdrop where others refuse to provide me with the same kindness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 9213909, member: 6795602"] You are typically very reasonable so let me ask this - Couldn't I say the same about any of the words or phrases I complain about - especially the 'my definition is right and yours wrong part'. And if I did, how would you respond? And also let me say this: connotation vs denotation isn't a helpful line of differentiation as what inevitably will happen is that I or the other party will say my denotation is incorrect. Which places us immediately into a disagreement about semantics. It's still essentially the same discussion whether we argue connotations or denotations. *I'll dedicate a separate post to the specifics of 'writers room' Yea I share that concern, just for other terms and other games. Again - imagine if I told you the same. Thanks. I'm trying to do the same toward you. Well, funny thing - I don't agree with your definition. Which i think is what I just predicted generally happens in all these instances. I don't think that was the definition [USER=7025508]@Crimson Longinus[/USER] was using when he compared that specific thing to 'writers room'. But that puts us right back to 'semantics bad...' So i'm not really sure where we go from here as that's a conversation you've made clear that you don't want to have. *Also, I've not strongly advocated for the use of 'writers room'. My part here is more on the principles behind these things. If I recall correctly it wasn't too long ago that I had to specifically ask what it meant and the explanation provided made sense to me. I can also see why things don't fit the definition you gave. But the larger meta questions are - is that the correct definition, if not then are the things you incorporate into the definition part of the connotation - and unfortunately those kinds of meta questions are what this whole discussion of ours hinges upon - but not just for 'writers room' but also for every other word and term that's ever been disputed. Edit (late addition). For what it’s worth, I’m good never using the term writers room again. But I’m not willing to do that against a backdrop where others refuse to provide me with the same kindness. [/QUOTE]
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