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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9232040" data-attributes="member: 42582">OK, I'm glad we've reached consensus on this point at least!Subject to the possibility that I posted about above - of the players putting the location of the dirt at stake, and then losing - I don't think this sort of thing is part of DitV play. Nothing in the rulebook suggests it. The core principle is to actively reveal so as to drive play towards conflict.So, if the players lose some crucial conflict it makes sense that the mayor might take the papers from the safe and flee with them into the hills. And the GM might even, if they want to rub the players' nose in their loss, narrate them rushing to the mayor's office to find the safe open, and see that the mayor's horse is no longer tethered to the hitching rail outside.What you describe, [USER=82106]@AbdulAlhazred[/USER], seems to me more apt in a low/no myth game with an investigation component: the players have their PCs look in the safe buth then fail, and hence instead of finding the dirt they hoped for, the GM narrates a twist or complication: they have to deal with the new NPC, go elsewhere etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9232040, member: 42582"] OK, I'm glad we've reached consensus on this point at least! Subject to the possibility that I posted about above - of the players putting the location of the dirt at stake, and then losing - I don't think this sort of thing is part of DitV play. Nothing in the rulebook suggests it. The core principle is to [I]actively reveal[/I] so as to [I]drive play towards conflict[/I]. So, if the players lose some crucial conflict it makes sense that the mayor might take the papers from the safe and flee with them into the hills. And the GM might even, if they want to rub the players' nose in their loss, narrate them rushing to the mayor's office to find the safe open, and see that the mayor's horse is no longer tethered to the hitching rail outside. What you describe, [USER=82106]@AbdulAlhazred[/USER], seems to me more apt in a low/no myth game with an investigation component: the players have their PCs look in the safe buth then [I]fail[/I], and hence instead of finding the dirt they hoped for, the GM narrates a twist or complication: they have to deal with the new NPC, go elsewhere etc. [/QUOTE]

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