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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5899745" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>I'd very much disagree with that. There may not be the aspects that come with having people in one's home, but there are still the aspects of wanting to have an enjoyable experience. Part of that experience is the socialization with other people. But having a jerk in the mix can easily destroy that aspect. We all do still screen the people we play with. Even you do. You said you'd meet people in a neutral location before inviting them to your home. That's screening. You may not agree with Olive's criteria, but we all discriminately evaluate who we game with to one extent or another. And I find nothing in Olive's criteria that are unduly discriminatory or insensitive to those with disabilities.</p><p> </p><p>Now do I feel that excluding people because they might have mental health issues is okay? In general: No. I wouldn't exclude somebody from a game of mine spcifically because I know of a mental health issue they have. However, I will exclude them if they are unable to participate politely and socially in a game session. I find anti-social personalities or problems to be something wouldn't be willing to deal with at my games. I'm playing to have fun, not provide someone a therapy session. But I'm not excluding them because of their issue, I'm excluding them because of their behavior.</p><p> </p><p>I posted earlier that I hadn't really ever gamed with anyone with mental health issues. The general theme of the thread at the time, seemed to be talking about extreme issues: Alcohol/drug addiction, anti-social personalities, etc., so I said I've never had to deal with such issues nor known any gamers who had these issues. However, my wife has ADD and plays in our games. My cousin has OCD, and also plays in our games. And I can't imagine either one of those being problems even if they weren't family and I hadn't previously known them. Hell, when it comes right down to it, we all have issues. What the hell is "normal" anyways...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> So I really don't consider stuff like that an issue. But, I also have no right to say what's right for each and every individual gamer at their kitchen table. If someone wants to exclude someone from their home because of ADD, OCD, or anything else, they have that right. You and I might think it's jerky, but we have no right to tell them they can't. However, more than likely I wouldn't game at that persons house either, as I don't want to game with jerks.</p><p> </p><p>As to where most people game: I'd say it's probably a given that most games occur within someone's "home". Sure, there are games at hobby stores, and sometimes even in public places, but I'm betting that kitchen tables and living rooms probably far outweigh all other settings. In this context I also consider one's dorm room their "home". Most games I've played in have been somebody's home, with the exception of when I lived in a dorm myself. Most gaming I did then was usually in a common area like a day room or such, but only because all of us involved in the game also lived in a dorm...though sometimes we did cram everybody into someones room and gamed.</p><p> </p><p>But I think those would be some interesting questions for a poll(s).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5899745, member: 59506"] I'd very much disagree with that. There may not be the aspects that come with having people in one's home, but there are still the aspects of wanting to have an enjoyable experience. Part of that experience is the socialization with other people. But having a jerk in the mix can easily destroy that aspect. We all do still screen the people we play with. Even you do. You said you'd meet people in a neutral location before inviting them to your home. That's screening. You may not agree with Olive's criteria, but we all discriminately evaluate who we game with to one extent or another. And I find nothing in Olive's criteria that are unduly discriminatory or insensitive to those with disabilities. Now do I feel that excluding people because they might have mental health issues is okay? In general: No. I wouldn't exclude somebody from a game of mine spcifically because I know of a mental health issue they have. However, I will exclude them if they are unable to participate politely and socially in a game session. I find anti-social personalities or problems to be something wouldn't be willing to deal with at my games. I'm playing to have fun, not provide someone a therapy session. But I'm not excluding them because of their issue, I'm excluding them because of their behavior. I posted earlier that I hadn't really ever gamed with anyone with mental health issues. The general theme of the thread at the time, seemed to be talking about extreme issues: Alcohol/drug addiction, anti-social personalities, etc., so I said I've never had to deal with such issues nor known any gamers who had these issues. However, my wife has ADD and plays in our games. My cousin has OCD, and also plays in our games. And I can't imagine either one of those being problems even if they weren't family and I hadn't previously known them. Hell, when it comes right down to it, we all have issues. What the hell is "normal" anyways...;) So I really don't consider stuff like that an issue. But, I also have no right to say what's right for each and every individual gamer at their kitchen table. If someone wants to exclude someone from their home because of ADD, OCD, or anything else, they have that right. You and I might think it's jerky, but we have no right to tell them they can't. However, more than likely I wouldn't game at that persons house either, as I don't want to game with jerks. As to where most people game: I'd say it's probably a given that most games occur within someone's "home". Sure, there are games at hobby stores, and sometimes even in public places, but I'm betting that kitchen tables and living rooms probably far outweigh all other settings. In this context I also consider one's dorm room their "home". Most games I've played in have been somebody's home, with the exception of when I lived in a dorm myself. Most gaming I did then was usually in a common area like a day room or such, but only because all of us involved in the game also lived in a dorm...though sometimes we did cram everybody into someones room and gamed. But I think those would be some interesting questions for a poll(s). [/QUOTE]
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