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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5181067" data-attributes="member: 4937">No, it's the exact same trick.&nbsp; Imagine you have two stage magicians, and they are putting on their usual act to impress people.&nbsp; Each is competing with the other one. The first magician says, &quot;I can read the future.&nbsp; Pick a card, don't show it to me, put it into this envelope.&nbsp; And I'll tell you what it is.&quot;&nbsp; So the guy does so and the magicians says, &quot;It's the Queen of Hearts&quot;, and sure enough they open the envelope and its the Queen of Hearts.The second magician says, &quot;That's nothing.&nbsp; I can teach you to read the future.&nbsp; Pick a card, don't look at it, put it into this envelope.&quot;&nbsp; So the guy does so, and the magician says, &quot;Now stretch out with your feelings.&nbsp; Let go of your conscious self and act on instinct.&nbsp; Now, what is the card.&quot;&nbsp; The guy says, &quot;It's the Seven of Clubs.&quot;, and the magician opens the envelope and sure enough its the Seven of Clubs, and the guy says, &quot;That's amazing!&quot;When the guy leaves the first magician says to the other one, &quot;Stop stealing my tricks.&quot;&nbsp; And the second magician says, &quot;It's not the same trick.&quot;&nbsp; And the first magician replies, &quot;It is the same trick.&nbsp; I saw you do it.&quot;&nbsp; Then the second magician says, &quot;Ahh.. but he doesn't know that.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5181067, member: 4937"] No, it's the exact same trick. Imagine you have two stage magicians, and they are putting on their usual act to impress people. Each is competing with the other one. The first magician says, "I can read the future. Pick a card, don't show it to me, put it into this envelope. And I'll tell you what it is." So the guy does so and the magicians says, "It's the Queen of Hearts", and sure enough they open the envelope and its the Queen of Hearts. The second magician says, "That's nothing. I can teach you to read the future. Pick a card, don't look at it, put it into this envelope." So the guy does so, and the magician says, "Now stretch out with your feelings. Let go of your conscious self and act on instinct. Now, what is the card." The guy says, "It's the Seven of Clubs.", and the magician opens the envelope and sure enough its the Seven of Clubs, and the guy says, "That's amazing!" When the guy leaves the first magician says to the other one, "Stop stealing my tricks." And the second magician says, "It's not the same trick." And the first magician replies, "It is the same trick. I saw you do it." Then the second magician says, "Ahh.. but he doesn't know that." [/QUOTE]

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