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<blockquote data-quote="CRGreathouse" data-source="post: 24792" data-attributes="member: 474">&quot;Level up&quot; to a first level character?&nbsp; Yes, I think you'll need to explain that - it's counterintuitive.&nbsp; Fortunatly, most of RPM is clearly laid out, or seems that way to me.OK, I admit, Naldak was there.&nbsp; I understand now, but that wasn't too clear to me.&nbsp; I doubt it'll be a real problem, though, unlike the above. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Well, I suppose I'll continue with Naldak.&nbsp; His HD are properly calculated as 1d12+2d10+12, but his hit points (oddly enough) are 2.&nbsp; Mistake on my part?&nbsp; Likely, but I don't know.I'm now going back to re-create Naldak as a level 0 dwarf.I'm having trouble with items... after selecting a heavy pick, +1 chain shirt, and +1 large wooden shield, I removed the default items (scale mail, shortbow, etc.) and refreshed the screen.&nbsp; All good, until I click &quot;Next&quot; - it puts the default items back.&nbsp; Try as I might, it won't let me keep them off... &quot;post edit&quot; is equally useless here.&nbsp; Ditto for the attacks.&nbsp; Perhaps these are functions of level 0 characters?Continuing to the Level Up screen...Feats: Earned 1, Assigned __.&nbsp; Good so fsr.&nbsp; I select a feat, and look!&nbsp; Earned 1, Assigned 1.&nbsp; I'm happy.On the skills screen, I see a fairly large (and likely unfixable) error - uncapped skill ranks.&nbsp; I can put all of my ranks into Ride...Going to the stat block, I noticed that the default items are still all there, so I tab over to &quot;items&quot; and fix it.&nbsp; Despite having to move the cursor from the item I want to delete to the delete button and then to the alert box, it didn't take too long - and it stayed fixed this time.&nbsp; I quickly equipped the heavy pick in my primary hand and the +1 wooden shield in the other.Back to the stat block, my total weight and gold are 10/7 - still not nearly accurate.&nbsp; The skills list my ranks instead of my modifiers: &quot;Climb 4, Handle Animal 4, Jump 4, Ride 4, Tumble 2&quot; instead of &quot;Climb +8, Handle Animal +3, Jump +8, Ride +8, Tumble +6&quot; (or &quot;Climb +7, Handle Animal +3, Jump +7, Ride +8, Tumble +5&quot;, if it knew about my armor check penalty for the +1 chain shirt).This brings up an important issue: what are you going to do with armor check penalties?&nbsp; The obvious answer is to incluide them on the stat block and let them change for in-game calculations, but it's not that easy.&nbsp; For example, take a character with a large wooden shield and scale mail, with the skills Tumble, Swim, Climb, Jump, and Listen.&nbsp; Tumble is impossible in scale mail, Swim has a special armor check penalty, Climb is impossible with a shield, Jump just uses the basic armor, and Listen ignores them all.&nbsp; Granted, this is a contrived example, but it shows the complexity of the skill system.A related issue is items: climbing kit, ring of swimming, and mw artisan's tools.&nbsp; Also, what about Alertness and Skill Focus?&nbsp; What about familiars granting Alertness and +2 to Move Silently checks?Back to Naldak, let's look at his atatcks (after refreshing):Remember, the &quot;items&quot; tab lists the pick in his primary hand and the shield in the off-hand.Continuing, the (non-Dodge) AC is 16, correct if the enhancement bonuses are discarded - I assume this will be added in later.&nbsp; The dodge is 8, for some reason.&nbsp; No relevant feats and Dex 18 - what's up?OK, that's enough for now.&nbsp; I hope my devil's advocate position on skills didn't discourage you...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CRGreathouse, post: 24792, member: 474"] "Level up" to a first level character? Yes, I think you'll need to explain that - it's counterintuitive. Fortunatly, most of RPM is clearly laid out, or seems that way to me. OK, I admit, Naldak was there. I understand now, but that wasn't too clear to me. I doubt it'll be a real problem, though, unlike the above. :) Well, I suppose I'll continue with Naldak. His HD are properly calculated as 1d12+2d10+12, but his hit points (oddly enough) are 2. Mistake on my part? Likely, but I don't know. I'm now going back to re-create Naldak as a level 0 dwarf. I'm having trouble with items... after selecting a heavy pick, [i]+1 chain shirt[/i], and [i]+1 large wooden shield[/i], I removed the default items (scale mail, shortbow, etc.) and refreshed the screen. All good, until I click "Next" - it puts the default items back. Try as I might, it won't let me keep them off... "post edit" is equally useless here. Ditto for the attacks. Perhaps these are functions of level 0 characters? Continuing to the Level Up screen... Feats: Earned 1, Assigned __. Good so fsr. I select a feat, and look! Earned 1, Assigned 1. I'm happy. On the skills screen, I see a fairly large (and likely unfixable) error - uncapped skill ranks. I can put all of my ranks into Ride... Going to the stat block, I noticed that the default items are still all there, so I tab over to "items" and fix it. Despite having to move the cursor from the item I want to delete to the delete button and then to the alert box, it didn't take too long - and it stayed fixed this time. I quickly equipped the heavy pick in my primary hand and the [i]+1 wooden shield[/i] in the other. Back to the stat block, my total weight and gold are 10/7 - still not nearly accurate. The skills list my ranks instead of my modifiers: "Climb 4, Handle Animal 4, Jump 4, Ride 4, Tumble 2" instead of "Climb +8, Handle Animal +3, Jump +8, Ride +8, Tumble +6" (or "Climb +7, Handle Animal +3, Jump +7, Ride +8, Tumble +5", if it knew about my armor check penalty for the [i]+1 chain shirt[/i]). This brings up an important issue: what are you going to do with armor check penalties? The obvious answer is to incluide them on the stat block and let them change for in-game calculations, but it's not that easy. For example, take a character with a large wooden shield and scale mail, with the skills Tumble, Swim, Climb, Jump, and Listen. Tumble is impossible in scale mail, Swim has a special armor check penalty, Climb is impossible with a shield, Jump just uses the basic armor, and Listen ignores them all. Granted, this is a contrived example, but it shows the complexity of the skill system. A related issue is items: climbing kit, [i]ring of swimming[/i], and mw artisan's tools. Also, what about Alertness and Skill Focus? What about familiars granting Alertness and +2 to Move Silently checks? Back to Naldak, let's look at his atatcks (after refreshing): Remember, the "items" tab lists the pick in his primary hand and the shield in the off-hand. Continuing, the (non-Dodge) AC is 16, correct if the enhancement bonuses are discarded - I assume this will be added in later. The dodge is 8, for some reason. No relevant feats and Dex 18 - what's up? OK, that's enough for now. I hope my devil's advocate position on skills didn't discourage you... [/QUOTE]

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