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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cyronax" data-source="post: 997132" data-attributes="member: 822">Well maybe I overstated it a bit, but I think do that RttTOEE, regardless of how well you think it was done, draws on a huge chapter of GH lore. This module basically could take the GH world through dramatic and climatic changes comprable to EGG's old Gord books. I don't remember which one, but in one (or all) the main thrust of the story was that Big T annihilates Greyhawk. If Greyhawk is looked at from the totality of its unofficial and official 1e and 2e incarnations, it IS the world most likely to be destroyed by such an event. FR has too many statted and annoying 'heroes,' and the other worlds.....i'll mention if anyone contests this point.Iuz, Zuggtmoy, etc. are just paltry demon (princes) and the RttTOEE is the first module that really introduces the release of a Cthonic entity into an official (D&D) game world. Now granted you'd have to expand the climax a lot more in order for the other elemental lords to come to Oerth and eventually free Tharizdun, but I maintain this is a GH adventure.And SURE the Lortmils were cleared of orcs during the Hateful Wars and other conflicts, but the GH Wars reshaped Oerth's balance of power, and to say an organization as wide spread and possibly even more insidious than the Scarlet Brotherhood could not keep their growth secret is absurd.  Besides, the CRM and the ToAC could have been a project in the works for a long long time. I forget what the module says, but when i ran the campaign (in my own world, but with the set up basically the same), I considered the Cult of Tharizdun to have been preparing the CRM and ToAC for centuries. The actual ToEE itself was just a premature......uh.... "ejaculation of their plan". Their main mistake was locating it soo close to a Good area......and that's what leads to the their downfall.Bah enough of that. All rationalizations and ramblings....anyway, there are holes to any plot. GH is no stranger to inconsistency. RttTOEE is as Greyhawk as Undermountain is FR. Both could be transplanted relatively easily by even a novice DM to most types of worlds.Lowering my defenses <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />, C.I.D.</blockquote>

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