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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4626531" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>Dragonborn's Dragon Breath (PHB p34):</p><p><em>When you create your character, choose Strength, Constitution, or Dexterity as the ability score you use when making attack rolls with this power. You also choose the power's damage type: acid, cold, fire, lightning, or poison. These two choices remain throughout your character's life and do not change <strong>the power's other effects</strong>.</em></p><p></p><p>Ability score and damage type are contrasted with the power's "other effects". Not the power's effects, but "other effects".</p><p></p><p>PHB p55:</p><p><em>A power's keyword entry gives you important rules information about the power. The first keyword indicates whether the power is an at-will, encounter, or daily power. (One example of each type is given above.) The color used in the line containing the power name also conveys this information: At-will powers have a green bar, encounter powers have a red bar, and daily powers have a black bar. <strong>The other keywords define the fundamental effects of a power.</strong></em></p><p></p><p>All the damage keywords are 'other keywords', so the damage keywords are some of the keywords that define the fundamental effects of a power.</p><p></p><p>The Psychic damage keyword applies to <em>Effects that target the mind</em>. If damage keywords do not describe effects, how is this one explained?</p><p></p><p>PHB p57:</p><p><em>The ongoing damage doesn't increase, because it's a static effect.</em></p><p></p><p>Ongoing damage is an effect. Does that mean it is not damage?</p><p></p><p>Martyr's Smite, PHB p98:</p><p><em>The target's intended victim takes no damage but is subject to any other effects of the attack.</em></p><p></p><p>Not "is subject to any effects of the attack", but "any other effects", distinguishing them from the effect of taking damage.</p><p></p><p>PHB p269:</p><p><em>Deal damage and apply other effects.</em></p><p></p><p>PHB p276:</p><p><em>When you hit, you usually deal damage and sometimes produce some other effect.</em></p><p></p><p>PHB p310:</p><p><em>A phantom steed is immune to any effect other than damage.</em></p><p></p><p>Immune to any effect. Apart from damage. That's an effect it isn't immune to.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4626531, member: 1656"] Dragonborn's Dragon Breath (PHB p34): [i]When you create your character, choose Strength, Constitution, or Dexterity as the ability score you use when making attack rolls with this power. You also choose the power's damage type: acid, cold, fire, lightning, or poison. These two choices remain throughout your character's life and do not change [b]the power's other effects[/b].[/i] Ability score and damage type are contrasted with the power's "other effects". Not the power's effects, but "other effects". PHB p55: [i]A power's keyword entry gives you important rules information about the power. The first keyword indicates whether the power is an at-will, encounter, or daily power. (One example of each type is given above.) The color used in the line containing the power name also conveys this information: At-will powers have a green bar, encounter powers have a red bar, and daily powers have a black bar. [b]The other keywords define the fundamental effects of a power.[/b][/i] All the damage keywords are 'other keywords', so the damage keywords are some of the keywords that define the fundamental effects of a power. The Psychic damage keyword applies to [i]Effects that target the mind[/i]. If damage keywords do not describe effects, how is this one explained? PHB p57: [i]The ongoing damage doesn't increase, because it's a static effect.[/i] Ongoing damage is an effect. Does that mean it is not damage? Martyr's Smite, PHB p98: [i]The target's intended victim takes no damage but is subject to any other effects of the attack.[/i] Not "is subject to any effects of the attack", but "any other effects", distinguishing them from the effect of taking damage. PHB p269: [i]Deal damage and apply other effects.[/i] PHB p276: [i]When you hit, you usually deal damage and sometimes produce some other effect.[/i] PHB p310: [i]A phantom steed is immune to any effect other than damage.[/i] Immune to any effect. Apart from damage. That's an effect it isn't immune to. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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