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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 5720056" data-attributes="member: 18182">Are you saying you disagree with the early 4th Ed rationale of "less fluff", or are you saying you think they are being dishonest in their explanation?  The first makes sense, of course, although they do state they have moved away from this philosophy.  The second . . . eh, not so much.It's not contradictory at all.  They stated their philosophy for early 4th Ed design, the author still seems to feel it's justified, but grudgingly admits they took it too far, and are moving away from that approach.Personally, I dislike the "less fluff, more crunch" approach they took, even in early products to "get stuff out there".  But the perfect balance between fluff and crunch is an ongoing debate with no end in sight, for designers and for fans.</blockquote>