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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 5837748" data-attributes="member: 5143">The problem isn't contained to 4e or games with encounter powers.&nbsp; I had the same thing happened when the PCs found a portal that would continually dump monsters on them every 5 minutes.The monsters were easy enough that they didn't have to use any spells to defeat them, the fighters could just attack with their swords until it died.&nbsp; Most of the time, they'd take no damage at all, but when they did they had enough potions and healing spells to keep fighting them for a long, long time.&nbsp; Instead of the logical &quot;Maybe we should get out of here before that things summons more monsters&quot;, they said &quot;You know how much XP we can get just sitting here?&quot;It wasn't until I told them I wouldn't give them any more XP for monsters from this portal that they decided to leave.Sometimes I wonder if the solution isn't to remove ALL at will powers from the game, including &quot;basic attack&quot; and instead have things like &quot;Attacking with sword&quot; cost Endurance points or something so that even the fighters have to stop and rest for the night after a while.But that's likely to make the 15MAD even worse....since any resource that runs out encourages people to get it back as quickly as possible.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 5837748, member: 5143"] The problem isn't contained to 4e or games with encounter powers. I had the same thing happened when the PCs found a portal that would continually dump monsters on them every 5 minutes. The monsters were easy enough that they didn't have to use any spells to defeat them, the fighters could just attack with their swords until it died. Most of the time, they'd take no damage at all, but when they did they had enough potions and healing spells to keep fighting them for a long, long time. Instead of the logical "Maybe we should get out of here before that things summons more monsters", they said "You know how much XP we can get just sitting here?" It wasn't until I told them I wouldn't give them any more XP for monsters from this portal that they decided to leave. Sometimes I wonder if the solution isn't to remove ALL at will powers from the game, including "basic attack" and instead have things like "Attacking with sword" cost Endurance points or something so that even the fighters have to stop and rest for the night after a while. But that's likely to make the 15MAD even worse....since any resource that runs out encourages people to get it back as quickly as possible. [/QUOTE]

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