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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5856669" data-attributes="member: 7006">OH FOR PETE'S SAKE!!!The game is still a YEAR AND A HALF AWAY AT LEAST!!!  You have NO IDEA what the rules actually are, let alone whether they match what you think they should be!You've heard SNIPPETS of small, POSSIBLE rules within an ALPHA VERSION of the game.  You and I have no idea whether there is damage on a miss... whether or not some monsters might have damage roll expressions AND an 'average' damage listing right after in parenthesis (to use as simple minion damage).  And none of us have seen any sort of Monster Manual entry to find out if MAYBE PERHAPS there will be several entries for 'orc', and one of them them might have nothing more than a basic attack and THAT'S IT (thereby being as simple as a 4E 'minion' entry, just without the 'minion' keyword on it.)  So all this clamoring about not having "real minions" in the game is quite possibly pretty much negated.This is why WE HAVE PLAYTESTS.So that YOU can playtest the game, find out FOR YOURSELF what options or rules are in the game, and then MAKE SUGGESTIONS to have some things you think might be useful put into the game.  Rather than just get all huffy NOW and start throwing around ridiculous claims that WotC is now forcing you to houserule a game that doesn't even exist yet.  I mean come on!  Ugh!</blockquote>