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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kobold Avenger" data-source="post: 5859915" data-attributes="member: 779">The problem is that many people seem to interpret CN as being CE with low mental ability scores.  Sure CN people dislike organization and a lot of things about society in general, and that often puts them ahead of themselves over others, but they also put people they like above the rest of society.  One thing that many forget mention about chaotic characters is they tend to be motivated by their emotions and instincts more than any other alignments would be.  Though one can argue that instincts are neutral on the L/C axis, emotions is the stuff of chaos.  There's a reason why some LN paragon beings are sort of like automatons, and that the Gods of things like Love or Vengeance tend to be chaotic over lawful.In fact most people are neutral on the G/E axis, anyone who's more individualistic than others is chaotic.  Out of all those chaotic people only a small minority is either good or evil.As for CN vs. CE, well Catwoman is a Chaotic Neutral character, she's certainly a super-criminal and is almost always out for herself.  But she does care about people like Holly Robinson or Batman, not so much about any of the later's associates though.Jayne Cobb from Firefly is an example of a Chaotic Evil character, with a low intelligence score.  He isn't an outright psychopath like how many CE people could be, or a paragon of the CE alignment, but he's certainly selfish to a detriment and needed to be put in line at least once with force and intimidation.</blockquote>

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