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<blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 5509928" data-attributes="member: 27160"><p>With previous incarnations of D&D I think that was a valid model; with 4e I think it <em>shouldn't</em> be. I say "shouldn't", here, because (a) some people are clearly put off by the Rep. that very high level play has and (b) there is a lack of explanation, support and advice in the D&D books to show prospective Epic DMs that it's no longer the beast it was. But it <strong>is</strong> no longer such a beast because of the structure of the 4e rules. Epic characters have no more At-Will, Encounter or Daily powers than Paragon ones do. They may still have more Utilities, feats and class abilities, but the core of what they can do in a round (the "action economy") is still <em>mostly</em> intact. Plus, the game is not (supposed to be) as stupid-busted-broken in the balance and capability department as earlier editions were past level 14 or so.</p><p></p><p>So, in summation, I do think you're wrong, here - but it may take a bit to persuade players and DMs that that is so... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Balesir, post: 5509928, member: 27160"] With previous incarnations of D&D I think that was a valid model; with 4e I think it [I]shouldn't[/I] be. I say "shouldn't", here, because (a) some people are clearly put off by the Rep. that very high level play has and (b) there is a lack of explanation, support and advice in the D&D books to show prospective Epic DMs that it's no longer the beast it was. But it [b]is[/b] no longer such a beast because of the structure of the 4e rules. Epic characters have no more At-Will, Encounter or Daily powers than Paragon ones do. They may still have more Utilities, feats and class abilities, but the core of what they can do in a round (the "action economy") is still [I]mostly[/I] intact. Plus, the game is not (supposed to be) as stupid-busted-broken in the balance and capability department as earlier editions were past level 14 or so. So, in summation, I do think you're wrong, here - but it may take a bit to persuade players and DMs that that is so... ;) [/QUOTE]
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