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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Riastlin" data-source="post: 5511478" data-attributes="member: 94022">Naturally, all we can do is speculate as we do not have access to WotC's numbers.  That being said though, this is why I feel its better to put this information in a DMG 3 (or whatever they call it) that is modelled after the style as the DMG 2 was.  DMG 2 is useful regardless of whether or not you want to run a paragon level campaign.  The same would hold true for a DMG 3 if you follow the same style.  Give general encounter/adventure/campaign advice.  Print the new monster numbers.  Discuss SC's again, showing what's been learned, etc.  In other words, D&D is very much an organic game, particularly in the digital age where errata is relatively easy to incorporate.  I agree that the "Epic Level Handbook" would be a tougher sell as that clearly is going to be of very limited use to anybody who has no interest in running epic level games.  Same holds for the Epic Monster Manual/Vault.  If its nothing but Epic, I think you are right, the market shrinks drastically.  If epic is included in a general monster manual/vault then it becomes useful to everyone again.  I've yet to hear anybody complain that Orcus was in the Monster Manual for example (I've heard complaints about the specifics of the stat block, but that's a different issue).  I have not heard a single person say "F-That!  I'm not buying the Monster Manual.  They put epic level creatures in it!"  While certainly there are some people who would buy the Epic Level Handbook, etc., I think most, if not all, of us are simply looking for any support.  We don't need an entire book, but something like the DMG 3 I think would sell quite well if done right, just as the DMG 2 is widely considered very useful regardless of whether or not you are running a paragon tier campaign.</blockquote>

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