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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 5516646" data-attributes="member: 463">Your paragraph #1 - "We don't want any responsibility" - explains your paragraph #2 - "There's no epic feel".  With great power comes great responsibility.  Otherwise you're still fighting kobolds, just with bigger numbers and more book-keeping.FWIW I don't see anything in the 4e books to support this "4e is about power without responsibility" meme.Re targetting NPCs.  This isn't something the DM does to be a vindictive SOB.  In our Epic AD&D campaign Thrin acquired a consort, the barbarian princess Reesha of Werskara, and followers at his fortress in Ysgard, and his holdings there were almost always safe from attack - I think Arasaka sent a Solo team in power armour after him there one time, they didn't get too far.  But he didn't draw WPs from Ysgard, his worship points come from the Prime, where the nation of Thrinia faced various threats for him to deal with.  Often 'dealing with' meant a 4e style quest, but nothing too long & tedious.  Other times he'd be called into action, as with Reesha & her allies calling him, the 'Star Warrior', through the Star Gate (pre the movie!) to save her world Werskara from the Wolfen who were being led by an avatar of Fenrir.  That involved an epic quest across Werskara to recover the various arms, armour & sceptre of (AIR) King Varran the Mighty, so that Reesha could unite Humanity to defeat the Wolfen.  That adventure emphasised cool locales & foes like the Hag of the Twisted Tower, on the literal Edge of the World (a tower hanging above a void where the hag's swamps plunged into the infinite abyss); or the volcanic dungeons of Sunderhold, City of the Priest Kings of Surt.  It culminated in a huge battle against the Wolfen, using BECMI War Machine plus personal combat between Thrin and the Avatar of Fenrir.  It would have worked perfectly in 4e.</blockquote>

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