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<blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 5849614" data-attributes="member: 1879"><p>Who on earth said "It's optional so it doesn't matter"? Oh right, no one.</p><p></p><p>If 5e has lots of options placed in different modules, then at some point, even if everything in the core 3 books is somehow perfect, there will be unbalanced or broken combinations found.</p><p></p><p>Yes. Just like in 2e with skills and powers or 3e with all the books or 4e with all the books. So what? It's the nature of complex systems, and it's why we have GMs who are allowed to say "No."</p><p></p><p>Apparently some people feel it's an unfair burden to make the GM say no, but honestly it's part of the job. Otherwise no system is so balanced that a bully of a player cannot make the game a trainwreck. </p><p></p><p>The flipside is that without lots of modules 5e will fail.</p><p></p><p>Let me say that again: <strong>Without many playstyle modules 5e will utterly fail at its primary design goal.</strong></p><p></p><p>5e is supposed to be the edition everyone can play at the same table remember? The grognards, the 3e/PF loyalists, the 4e fanatics, heck maybe even the Vampire players. And if they are going to accomodate everyone the system must be simple (at its base), robust, forgiving, and highly modular.</p><p></p><p>So if I want to run B2 I can do it. If I want Eberron I can do it. If I want LotR or Disgaea the RPG it should do that too. </p><p></p><p>A crit/fumble table is not going to be the straw that breaks that camels back.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Andor, post: 5849614, member: 1879"] Who on earth said "It's optional so it doesn't matter"? Oh right, no one. If 5e has lots of options placed in different modules, then at some point, even if everything in the core 3 books is somehow perfect, there will be unbalanced or broken combinations found. Yes. Just like in 2e with skills and powers or 3e with all the books or 4e with all the books. So what? It's the nature of complex systems, and it's why we have GMs who are allowed to say "No." Apparently some people feel it's an unfair burden to make the GM say no, but honestly it's part of the job. Otherwise no system is so balanced that a bully of a player cannot make the game a trainwreck. The flipside is that without lots of modules 5e will fail. Let me say that again: [b]Without many playstyle modules 5e will utterly fail at its primary design goal.[/b] 5e is supposed to be the edition everyone can play at the same table remember? The grognards, the 3e/PF loyalists, the 4e fanatics, heck maybe even the Vampire players. And if they are going to accomodate everyone the system must be simple (at its base), robust, forgiving, and highly modular. So if I want to run B2 I can do it. If I want Eberron I can do it. If I want LotR or Disgaea the RPG it should do that too. A crit/fumble table is not going to be the straw that breaks that camels back. [/QUOTE]
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