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<blockquote data-quote="Erky" data-source="post: 2867853" data-attributes="member: 40751">Yeah with the summoning thing I don't think I'm quite convinced. It does say in the rules can't support it. But as an example it gives that aquatic beings can't be summoned on land. That is a whole different type of support than structural support.On the other hand I suppose summoning a land animal in the air makes it unable to support cause it would need an areal creature. And that falls in the non structural support.However if I would summon it on a floor that is trapped I don't see why it couldn't support it, it can breath there and what not. It sounds silly that just because I know there is a trap there I couldn't summon a being there. And even sillier if I couldn't summon a being there even if I didn't know there was a trap there because then summon monster suddenly turns into a detect trap double.So it's a bit of an odd thing. However being a good cleric I wouldn't ever do such a thing to a celestial creature naturally, so the option isn't quite viable anymore. But I'm still doubtful wether it's legally allowed.Erky</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Erky, post: 2867853, member: 40751"] Yeah with the summoning thing I don't think I'm quite convinced. It does say in the rules can't support it. But as an example it gives that aquatic beings can't be summoned on land. That is a whole different type of support than structural support. On the other hand I suppose summoning a land animal in the air makes it unable to support cause it would need an areal creature. And that falls in the non structural support. However if I would summon it on a floor that is trapped I don't see why it couldn't support it, it can breath there and what not. It sounds silly that just because I know there is a trap there I couldn't summon a being there. And even sillier if I couldn't summon a being there even if I didn't know there was a trap there because then summon monster suddenly turns into a detect trap double. So it's a bit of an odd thing. However being a good cleric I wouldn't ever do such a thing to a celestial creature naturally, so the option isn't quite viable anymore. But I'm still doubtful wether it's legally allowed. Erky [/QUOTE]

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