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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4489400" data-attributes="member: 4937">"It's more of an issue with players purposefully asking dumb things they know won't fly, but ask it anyways just in case."I've also seen players (fortunately I wasn't the DM) who say dumb things as part of a negotiation meta/subgame where the idea is to wear down the DM into granting you some comprimise position.  I think you can't really have a blanket 'say "no"' or 'say "yes"' policy.  There are times when either is appropriate.Times to say, "Yes."1) You didn't plan for the PC's actions.2) The PC's clearly want a change of direction.3) The PC wants to do something that is extremely unlikely, but not impossible AND the PC is aware of the risk.4) There is a chance that it will be fun and memorable for the whole group (DM included).Times to say, "No."1) The player is clearly trying to solve a problem or puzzle by manipulating the DM directly rather than the NPCs/environment.2) The player is showboating at the expense of other player's screen time.3) The player is a PC-DM who doesn't want to share in the story creation, but rather he wants to have you sit back and validate his awesomeness.Maybe I've been lucky, but I've seen more players (either as DM or fellow player) that badger and bully DM's than I've seen DM's that bully players.Anyway, even when you are saying 'No', you can make it sound more like, 'Yes'.  The players can always try.  They can always find something.  They can usually have a slim chance of success.</blockquote>

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