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<blockquote data-quote="Retros_x" data-source="post: 8842336" data-attributes="member: 7033171">I edited my last reply, as a non-english speaker I forgot about the different meanings of &quot;play&quot; and &quot;game&quot;. Improv is definitely playing (not a game though). Telling a story is different than playing without rules. One has interactions, the other not. Playing is not defined by rules, I will die on that hill. Its defined by having interactions and by beeing free of real life consequence. A literal playground. Games are structured, so with the English definition, I agree. In German playing and game are the same word, so my bad, I argumented on the behalf of my German background.edit: The point of the whole argumentation anyway is not to get rid of all rules in games. It is to became aware that rules emerged to help us with the game, not to dictate. So we can change them, however it fits for our game, especially if we are the literal game master. Thats why rules discussion are sometimes a bit pointless. There is no need to prove to others that they are &quot;playing wrong&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Retros_x, post: 8842336, member: 7033171"] I edited my last reply, as a non-english speaker I forgot about the different meanings of "play" and "game". Improv is definitely playing (not a game though). Telling a story is different than playing without rules. One has interactions, the other not. Playing is not defined by rules, I will die on that hill. Its defined by having interactions and by beeing free of real life consequence. A literal playground. Games are structured, so with the English definition, I agree. In German playing and game are the same word, so my bad, I argumented on the behalf of my German background. edit: The point of the whole argumentation anyway is not to get rid of all rules in games. It is to became aware that rules emerged to help us with the game, not to dictate. So we can change them, however it fits for our game, especially if we are the literal game master. Thats why rules discussion are sometimes a bit pointless. There is no need to prove to others that they are "playing wrong". [/QUOTE]

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