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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8954584" data-attributes="member: 7026617">The problem is that games tell you how to set the norms, and tend to imply in many cases that the GM ultimately is the person who sets those, too.&nbsp; Which means that an excessively interventionist GM is only restrained by, essentially, player revolt and many players have internalized the same set of expectations.&nbsp; Not, mind you, that they necessarily prefer it that way, just that they assume &quot;that's how it is.&quot;I mean, seriously, if anyone thinks that trad and even neotrad groups err on the side being too slow to change rules, they're existing in a different world than I am.&nbsp; And part of it I blame on the fact rules texts often are really slow to discuss the subject.Do another thought experiment: have two different people post thread starters, one praising &quot;Rulings Not Rules&quot; and another &quot;Stick to the Rules vigorously&quot; and see which one is accepted as a legitimate approach and which one gets more pushback.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 8954584, member: 7026617"] The problem is that games tell you [I]how[/I] to set the norms, and tend to imply in many cases that the GM ultimately is the person who sets those, too. Which means that an excessively interventionist GM is only restrained by, essentially, player revolt and many players have internalized the same set of expectations. Not, mind you, that they necessarily prefer it that way, just that they assume "that's how it is." I mean, seriously, if anyone thinks that trad and even neotrad groups err on the side being too slow to change rules, they're existing in a different world than I am. And part of it I blame on the fact rules texts often are really slow to discuss the subject. Do another thought experiment: have two different people post thread starters, one praising "Rulings Not Rules" and another "Stick to the Rules vigorously" and see which one is accepted as a legitimate approach and which one gets more pushback. [/QUOTE]

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