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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8973285" data-attributes="member: 71699">What I'm proposing is that if rules really are guidelines, then they cannot be replaced by other rules.Suppose that as a player I am following rule A. We have a house rule that allows me to change rule A to rule B. Very well, but now I am following rule B.In order for rules to be guidelines in the most interesting and meaningful sense (from my perspective, and quite possibly not interesting to others!), guidelines should be something other than rules. Upthread I suggested that the thread's intent seemed mostly about attitudes toward rules. I think folk are using guidelines to identify one such attitude, but so far what that seems to have come down to are norms about which rules are followed, not anything about how those rules are followed.[USER=7026617]@Thomas Shey[/USER] similarly I see the question of who gets to decide which rules are followed as also failing to make good on the thread title. The question of which rules are in play is separate from the question of what it means to say that a rule is a guideline.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 8973285, member: 71699"] What I'm proposing is that if rules really are guidelines, then they cannot be replaced by other rules. Suppose that as a player I am following rule A. We have a house rule that allows me to change rule A to rule B. Very well, but now I am following rule B. In order for rules to be guidelines in the most interesting and meaningful sense (from my perspective, and quite possibly not interesting to others!), guidelines should be something [I]other [/I]than rules. Upthread I suggested that the thread's intent seemed mostly about attitudes toward rules. I think folk are using guidelines to identify one such attitude, but so far what that seems to have come down to are norms about which rules are followed, not anything about [I]how [/I]those rules are followed. [USER=7026617]@Thomas Shey[/USER] similarly I see the question of who gets to decide which rules are followed as also failing to make good on the thread title. The question of which rules are in play is separate from the question of what it means to say that a rule is a guideline. [/QUOTE]

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