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<blockquote data-quote="Hellefire" data-source="post: 3089196" data-attributes="member: 28129"><p><strong>more questions</strong></p><p></p><p>OK, so making the books require use of wish or miracle. If its a +5 book does it require the 5 castings in immediate succession? The logistics of that get a little complicated.</p><p></p><p>It says in the DMG 3.5 that you can create a magic item requiring a spell through having access to the spell through another caster or item (page 282, Creating Magic Items, second paragraph). It also states that it takes 1 day per 1,000gp of base cost, and that the creator (or other magic source) needs to expend the required spell slot/s for each day of item creation. OK, so that's 137,500gp base price for a +5 book = 138 days to create. Each of those days requires the use of either 1 or 5 9th level spell slots. Considering a +1 book requires the XP from casting a single wish spell (plus losing a 9th level slot each day of creation until it is done), and a +5 book is simply the same cost x5...does that mean that since the time is already extended 5-fold that only 1 spell slot per day needs to be extended?</p><p></p><p>The problem is how the casting takes place. If it requires 5 spells cast in immediate succession, you're looking at 2-5 casters who can cast 9th level spells, or 1 caster who is 20th level and has 28+ int or wis, or an epic level caster who has taken the feat to have at least 5 9th level spell slots. How do you decide which caster/s lose spell slot/s for the duration of item creation?</p><p></p><p>Cheapest possibility - though I don't think this is possible since it appears the creation requires 5 spells - if you only have to cast wish/miracle once. In this case, the creator could handle the initial casting and lose a 9th level spell for 138 days.</p><p></p><p>Most expensive possibility - all 5 spells need to be cast in immediate succession, and all contributing casters need to lose one slot per spell they contributed, for the duration. Which may require an epic level caster (creator or contributor) giving up 5 level 9 spell slots for almost 5 months.</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts on my interpretation or on how that should be ruled?</p><p></p><p>Aaron</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hellefire, post: 3089196, member: 28129"] [b]more questions[/b] OK, so making the books require use of wish or miracle. If its a +5 book does it require the 5 castings in immediate succession? The logistics of that get a little complicated. It says in the DMG 3.5 that you can create a magic item requiring a spell through having access to the spell through another caster or item (page 282, Creating Magic Items, second paragraph). It also states that it takes 1 day per 1,000gp of base cost, and that the creator (or other magic source) needs to expend the required spell slot/s for each day of item creation. OK, so that's 137,500gp base price for a +5 book = 138 days to create. Each of those days requires the use of either 1 or 5 9th level spell slots. Considering a +1 book requires the XP from casting a single wish spell (plus losing a 9th level slot each day of creation until it is done), and a +5 book is simply the same cost x5...does that mean that since the time is already extended 5-fold that only 1 spell slot per day needs to be extended? The problem is how the casting takes place. If it requires 5 spells cast in immediate succession, you're looking at 2-5 casters who can cast 9th level spells, or 1 caster who is 20th level and has 28+ int or wis, or an epic level caster who has taken the feat to have at least 5 9th level spell slots. How do you decide which caster/s lose spell slot/s for the duration of item creation? Cheapest possibility - though I don't think this is possible since it appears the creation requires 5 spells - if you only have to cast wish/miracle once. In this case, the creator could handle the initial casting and lose a 9th level spell for 138 days. Most expensive possibility - all 5 spells need to be cast in immediate succession, and all contributing casters need to lose one slot per spell they contributed, for the duration. Which may require an epic level caster (creator or contributor) giving up 5 level 9 spell slots for almost 5 months. Any thoughts on my interpretation or on how that should be ruled? Aaron [/QUOTE]
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