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<blockquote data-quote="Imban" data-source="post: 4124897" data-attributes="member: 29206"><p>Yeah, that kinda bugged me when I read over the monster guide - the strong typing of monsters in 3e meant that nailing down what to target - touch AC, Reflex save, Fortitude save, Will save, what have you, was something where you only needed meta-knowledge of how AC and saves were determined in the system, 95% of the time. (*)</p><p></p><p>In the 4e material I've seen so far, I found the connection a lot less reliable, with only very basic generalizations able to be made - "Don't use Reflex attacks on ninjas", "Don't use Fortitude attacks on burly tanks", "Don't use Will attacks on giant disembodied brains". Heck, I seem to recall a monster from the preview material with a higher Reflex defense than Armor Class, so not even "attacking saves is better than attacking armor class" holds true in all cases.</p><p></p><p>For a good deal of these monsters, you either need to have read their monster manual entry or otherwise know/determine their defenses by experience, or you might as well just be rolling 1d3 and attack whichever save comes up.</p><p></p><p>(*) Sure, you occasionally run into things with a +10 The Designer Hates You bonus to Fortitude saves or whatever, but figuring out what to target on a monster was always pretty easy for me and my group.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imban, post: 4124897, member: 29206"] Yeah, that kinda bugged me when I read over the monster guide - the strong typing of monsters in 3e meant that nailing down what to target - touch AC, Reflex save, Fortitude save, Will save, what have you, was something where you only needed meta-knowledge of how AC and saves were determined in the system, 95% of the time. (*) In the 4e material I've seen so far, I found the connection a lot less reliable, with only very basic generalizations able to be made - "Don't use Reflex attacks on ninjas", "Don't use Fortitude attacks on burly tanks", "Don't use Will attacks on giant disembodied brains". Heck, I seem to recall a monster from the preview material with a higher Reflex defense than Armor Class, so not even "attacking saves is better than attacking armor class" holds true in all cases. For a good deal of these monsters, you either need to have read their monster manual entry or otherwise know/determine their defenses by experience, or you might as well just be rolling 1d3 and attack whichever save comes up. (*) Sure, you occasionally run into things with a +10 The Designer Hates You bonus to Fortitude saves or whatever, but figuring out what to target on a monster was always pretty easy for me and my group. [/QUOTE]
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